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bespoke radio for the masses headline

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additional july 8 1947

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the army air forces has announced that a

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flying beast has been found and is now

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in the possession of the army

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if the game is rigged change the game

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game changer

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i occasionally think how quickly

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our differences worldwide

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would vanish

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if we were facing an alien threat from

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church on the game changer radio

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network and kgra the global radio

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i need your help to get to the year

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you're listening to fate to black with

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bespoke radio

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how you doing today is tuesday july 20th

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202 days into the new year only

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163 days left let's do this

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we are live from a bunker somewhere in

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the middle of nowhere

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but it is beautiful

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it is it is truly beautiful

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inside and outside

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listening all around the world all

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across the united states

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hither and tether to and fro back and

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this is fade to black for kjcr the game

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changer network and kg r a the planets

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racehobbs i am your host jimmy church

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what is cracking everybody

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how you doing how you doing

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yeah man

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what a day

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but i gotta tell you looking forward to

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tonight because we have very special

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duke sullivan of world bigfoot radio

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joins us for the first time

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oh bigfoot all big feet all all

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squatching

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all the time tonight looking forward to

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that uh tomorrow night right here on

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this very program

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james fox

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to take

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his ufo victory lap and that is going

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down tomorrow night and then thursday

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it's fader night

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with ron keel here to help me man the

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and uh it's so funny i said i sent ron

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uh the banner

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uh for the show

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and uh there was a typo in it wrong date

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right and uh uh said the 21st and and

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ron wrote me back

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and he said

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oh man he said there was a typo there

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was a typo originally and we fixed it

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and then and sent it to him and then he

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and i fixed it and got it out there but

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thursday night ron keel right here the

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metal cowboy cannot wait for that it's

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helping me man the phones all night long

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taking your phone calls answering your

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and i just can't wait for that ron is

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the absolute very best so what a great

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us i made the announcement today

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and i'm just gonna leave that right

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there just gonna leave that right there

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travis walton on the show

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this monday the 26th

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there's your sneak peek for the week

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right there all right uh let's get the

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new version of tweetdeck i didn't

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back um it's it's interesting down in

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in the sandbox hashtag uh

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f2b in the sandbox well i want to hear

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from everybody are you using the new

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it's it's nice man

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it's really really nice i i like it i

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like it i thought uh twitter kind of a

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banded uh you know tweet deck like five

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uh but they kept it going and now we've

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um oh i did hear about this uh katya i'm

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did you hear the chief golden light

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eagle uh yes yes i heard about it rest

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in peace

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anything official

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but uh yeah yeah i hear you you know i

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can't believe he's gone either and

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and uh she's making a memorial video

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tomorrow so katy i would love to see it

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and get it posted so i can get it out

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there for everybody yeah i did hear the

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and uh all right so

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let's get going follow me on twitter at

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he's saw what i've been doing on twitter

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yeah well you want to follow all of that

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mess you can do it at j church radio the

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sandbox is hashtag f2b on twitter i

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already jumped over

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to uh youtube and said hello over there

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spreaker is way over there and i don't

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you know spin around and and hang out on

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spreaker anymore

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but i just want to say hi there's gene

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genevato i can see that from here and i

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can see catalina

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that's about it so hello to everybody

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over in the spreaker chat and of course

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youtube you guys are troublemakers you

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guys are trolling makers over there

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email is jimmy

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let's get to the breaking news

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it was announced right before showtime

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utility equipment from pacific gas and

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electric company otherwise known as here

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in california p g and e may have sparked

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the dixie fire which has scorched more

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than 30 000 acres in butte and plumas

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counties over the past week all of this

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the utility company filed this past

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pg e said in the report submitted to the

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that an employee responding to an outage

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tuesday noticed a blown fuse at crested

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dam in a heavily forested area of butte

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around the feather river canyon and that

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employee said that there was a fire

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right there at the base of the trees

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and we know what happened next p g and e

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responsible once again

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well it happened

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i'm sure all of you saw it there's a lot

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of memes created today

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virgin tycoon richard branson

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congratulated fellow billionaire jeff

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bezos

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for a successful flight to the edge of

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bezos flew aboard the new shepard rocket

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and capsule designed by his company blue

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origin the amazon ceo has long dreamed

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of carrying humans into space and hopes

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to offer commercial space flights for

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wealthy passengers in the near future

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however he was personally beaten

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into the cosmos by branson who blasted

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aboard a virgin galactic's unity 22

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space plane on july 11th fronting off

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by just over a week those are my words

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bezos

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was joined on this trip by his brother

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mark

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female aviation pioneer wally funk have

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to say that because of the name you know

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wally and oliver damon an 18 year old

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dutch teenager whose wealthy father

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paid for his ticket

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the capsule carrying jeff bezos and the

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other passengers successfully landed in

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the west texas desert

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now and i was reading about you know i

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was watching i thought man this is fast

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the whole flight

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it was like 11 minutes

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that's it you get three minutes up

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uh you know up top three minutes and

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then boom you come back down

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um reusable rocket and all of that

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everything landed safely but uh

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three minutes that's it

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uh the landing uh with the parachutes in

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the desert i was thinking man that's

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that's going fast it's going really fast

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that little uh little booster rocket at

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the end pretty soft landing pretty cool

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and i still can't get over the size of

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those windows on that capsule but there

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you go pretty exciting 11 minutes today

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also announced today

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amateur astronomer kai

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lai

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has discovered a new moon of jupiter

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while it hasn't received official

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designation yet it would bring the tally

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of jovian satellites

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to 80.

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lie report reported the discovery to the

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minor planet uh mailing list on june

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30th and has submitted it for

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publication as a minor planet electronic

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circular

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so there you go 80 moons

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around jupiter let's get this show crack

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and happy birthday to today

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sandra oh

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i just gotta do it she's so cool sandra

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oh today is 50

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and she she's been great in so many

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things but arless remember arliss she

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was great in arless

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judy greer today is 46. amazing in

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arrested development i like that series

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that's a good one carlos santana

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the god today

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is

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74 years old i'm going to tell a quick

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carlos story

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years ago working at guitar center this

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is like 1993 1994

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and we're bringing in carlos into the

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hollywood walk of fame it's called the

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rock walk and he puts his hands in in

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the wet concrete and this big

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celebration it's a lot of fun so anyway

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carlos is there but a friend of mine

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uh

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japanese guy and he says you know i'm

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carlos santana's personal photographer i

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said really

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and we were doing studio stuff and he

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takes me to the section of his house

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all of these framed carlos prince

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and i go man carlos is the best and

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because he is he goes

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pick out two

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i was like what

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so i do i pick out two

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boom boom

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take him home

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uh a couple of years later

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we're doing this rock walk thing and i

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and i take the photographs in with me

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and i didn't know if i was going to meet

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carlos but i ended up not only meeting

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them but hanging out with them for what

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seemed like hours

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and we're in my office at uh guitar

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center

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and i said carlos i want to show you you

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know and

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and i take out the pictures and he goes

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oh this is my photographer these are

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great yeah these are i said

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will you sign him absolutely

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took the frames apart took him out

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and he signs them for me and uh it was

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just a really cool moment i didn't know

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what it was going to be like i was like

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man is this cool to do turned out to be

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dude is on ice so there you go happy

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birthday carlos santana 74 years old kim

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karns

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today

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is are you ready for this kim karns is

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76.

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betty davis eyes twisted sisters j.j

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french

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today is 67

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and pearl jams one of my favorite guitar

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players ever

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stone gossard today is 56 years old and

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speaking of stone and pearl jam our dead

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guy's birthday today is chris cornell

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1964 to 2017 died at the age of 52.

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chris of course

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was the lead vocalist and rhythm

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guitarist for the rock band sound garden

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and audio slave

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chris will always be known as someone

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who not only changed music

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but he changed the world he was

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nominated for 16 grammy awards winning

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three

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he was voted rock's greatest singer by

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readers of guitar world ranked number

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four on the list of heavy metals

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all-time top 100 vocalists by hit

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parader number nine on the list of best

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lead singers of all time by rolling

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stone magazine and number 12 on mtv's 22

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greatest voices in music

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it was around 12 15 a.m on may 18 2017

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when his bodyguard found him unconscious

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in the bathroom of his hotel room

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shortly after performing with

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soundgarden at the fox theater in

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detroit

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the cause of death was officially ruled

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as suicide by hanging

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he was just 52 years old

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on this day in history

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1969

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neil armstrong says

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that's one small step for man and one

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giant leap for mankind

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while stepping off the lunar module

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eagle armstrong became the first human

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to walk on the surface of the moon

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yeah

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here you go i mean i'm always excited

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when i get to the fader fact

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and especially this one

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fader fact

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the original applebee's location

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which opened in decatur georgia

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was originally called

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that's right

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and that

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is your fader fact tonight

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right here

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duke sullivan of world bigfoot radio

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joins us for the very first time i want

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to remind everybody tomorrow night james

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fox is here he's going to be taking his

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ufo victory lap and then on thursday

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it's fader night

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not just any fader night

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ron keel is here to help me man the

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phones we're gonna go open lines all

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night long with ron keel

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that's right your calls your

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conversation ufos conspiracy time travel

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the paranormal supernatural loss history

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and music

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yeah we're gonna do both kinds of music

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we're gonna do

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country and western

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yeah a little rock and roll it's ron

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keel

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all right hot on your heels man i listen

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to hot on your heels today

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man

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i mean i always love that album the

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original steeler album but just you go

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back and you listen to it today

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ma'am what a great album

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okay

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00:20:29,190 --> 00:20:27,039
rick fox hot on your heels

447
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you thought i was going to say ingva

448
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nah ron keel

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rod was great on that record

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all right

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geez

452
00:20:41,750 --> 00:20:39,360
where am i at

453
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um let me hit this river moon coffee

454
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again

455
00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:53,590
it's already half gone

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here's a call from indianapolis

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mack daddy i'm on the air i'm only

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picking up because it's you i'll call

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oh there you go i'm not on all right man

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i'll talk to you later

461
00:21:20,230 --> 00:21:14,480
see you buddy

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00:21:24,789 --> 00:21:22,470
hold on for a second let me see now i'm

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live there i'm live there

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i'm live there what what what what

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that's that's indianapolis man see

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that's what happens you need to go to

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white castle

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you need to uh

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you need to go to white castle

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all right uh river moon coffee river

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moon wellness dot com

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so

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earlier this afternoon

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i was on with christina gomez

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i was on her live stream mysteries with

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a history

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and i was supposed to be on for 30

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minutes

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okay all right seriously i was supposed

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to be on for 30 minutes

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and uh

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two hours blew by like it was nothing

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seriously couldn't believe it

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i it was it was really funny i was

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watching the clock i had stuff to do

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and

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i was like okay there's 15 minutes you

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know christina we gotta wrap it another

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15. i looked up at the clock another 45

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minutes went by the next thing you know

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we we we burned off uh over two hours

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live and it was wonderful it was really

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cool but

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um and thank you for that christina i

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stepped all over you today and i didn't

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mean to do that

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but uh christina got me off of

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thinking about

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some of this drama that's going around

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right now in

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in social media and uh obviously travis

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walton we'll talk about that with travis

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on monday but uh back to the point

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christina got me off of that and i was

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so

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thankful

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to just

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go

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i mean you cleared my head today and

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christina kicked back

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and let me yap

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for two hours and i and and we were done

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at two hours i was good for another two

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i could have kept on going but it got me

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thinking after i was done

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where i don't really

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i don't talk about the stuff enough

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i don't and sometimes i just need to get

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it out

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and

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one

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of the things that we talked about

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talked about a lot

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was about how

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frigging big

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our universe really is

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and

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i started to

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rattle off numbers

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and i'm stating these things we're

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talking about you know astrophysics and

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physics and the size of everything and

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and

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had to stop i mean after what i was

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thinking man do i really know all of

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this stuff

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because

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i went into the zone i went into the

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zone

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and i didn't even realize

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uh

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that this knowledge poured out of me

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like it did

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and it's because i'm passionate

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but

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you really got to listen to me right now

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this is the deal how big is it how big

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is the universe well as big as i want to

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make it and it's big

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as big as i want to make it

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where

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we look at just our milky way and our

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milky way is already big it's 150 000

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light years across it'll take you 150

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000 years at the speed of light

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just to go across our galaxy our galaxy

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is medium sized it's medium there's much

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bigger ones out there there's smaller

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ones too but here we are our milky way

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150 000 light years across it's got 500

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billion stars probably more

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and each one of those stars has a planet

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in it that's 500 billion planets and 80

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billion of those planets are are

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earth-like in the goldilocks zone that's

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how big our milky way is planets are

567
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everywhere stars are everywhere you walk

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outside every single star you see in the

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sky has a planet on it how many people

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00:25:43,029 --> 00:25:40,640
are looking back at us going hey what's

571
00:25:45,190 --> 00:25:43,039
up man nice planet i don't know but

572
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there's a lot of life out there but if

573
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you take all of that a step

574
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further because as big as our milky way

575
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sounds

576
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right

577
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our universe

578
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is bigger

579
00:26:04,549 --> 00:26:02,000
our universe is so big we don't know how

580
00:26:06,950 --> 00:26:04,559
big it actually is

581
00:26:09,510 --> 00:26:06,960
our universe has

582
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one trillion

583
00:26:14,630 --> 00:26:11,679
milky ways in it

584
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one trillion and that's that's a

585
00:26:19,269 --> 00:26:16,720
guesstimate we don't even know how many

586
00:26:22,149 --> 00:26:19,279
galaxies have disappeared gone over the

587
00:26:24,789 --> 00:26:22,159
cosmic horizon traveling at faster than

588
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the speed of light we will never know

589
00:26:28,950 --> 00:26:26,960
what is actually out there and how big

590
00:26:32,149 --> 00:26:28,960
those numbers really are we don't know

591
00:26:34,950 --> 00:26:32,159
we don't know and we will never know

592
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and when i said today

593
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that on on planet earth

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the

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s

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there are

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more

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stars

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00:27:00,070 --> 00:26:56,400
in the universe and as crazy as that

600
00:27:02,230 --> 00:27:00,080
sounds it's like there can't be

601
00:27:04,789 --> 00:27:02,240
that many stars there just can't be

602
00:27:06,789 --> 00:27:04,799
grains of sand think of the biggest

603
00:27:09,430 --> 00:27:06,799
beach you've ever been on

604
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i'm talking about the entire earth

605
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okay

606
00:27:15,269 --> 00:27:11,440
now

607
00:27:18,070 --> 00:27:15,279
how big is that and how big is i'm i'm

608
00:27:19,269 --> 00:27:18,080
really making it sound if you think

609
00:27:21,510 --> 00:27:19,279
about it

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00:27:23,350 --> 00:27:21,520
our universe

611
00:27:26,389 --> 00:27:23,360
is actually

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because space

613
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out there

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beyond the edge of our universe that is

615
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expanding at the speed of light

616
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all of it

617
00:27:47,110 --> 00:27:45,430
that's how big everything is

618
00:27:50,149 --> 00:27:47,120
our milky way

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tiny our planet tiny by the time you get

620
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outside of the milky way our planet is

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gone disappeared those grains of sand

622
00:27:58,630 --> 00:27:57,039
i'm talking about insignificant you keep

623
00:28:01,269 --> 00:27:58,640
backing out of that and you start

624
00:28:03,750 --> 00:28:01,279
looking at the outside of our milky way

625
00:28:06,230 --> 00:28:03,760
you expand out of that you see andromeda

626
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and sagittarius and and everything else

627
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that's out there and you keep backing up

628
00:28:11,990 --> 00:28:09,919
backing up backing up backing up you get

629
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out there are

630
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universes just like ours

631
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forever

632
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and those universes

633
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that's how big everything is

634
00:28:31,350 --> 00:28:27,440
and i really

635
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really started to think about that

636
00:28:36,789 --> 00:28:33,520
it's forever

637
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and forever big

638
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so you want to ask me you want to say to

639
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me you want to question

640
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if we are alone in the universe

641
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stop with all of that

642
00:28:55,190 --> 00:28:53,200
you just stop

643
00:28:58,950 --> 00:28:55,200
i'm your host jimmy church this is fade

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to black tonight on this program

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duke

646
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sullivan of world bigfoot radio i am so

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excited about this duke is joining us

648
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for the first time by the way tomorrow

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night right here james fox is back

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gonna say it again it's so deserved he

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is taking his ufo victory lap

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thursday night fader night ron keel

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that's right we're doing both kinds

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western he's joining me for fader night

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man the phones and answer your questions

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welcome back fade to black i am your

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host jimmy church

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00:34:38,389 --> 00:34:35,839
tonight

762
00:34:40,950 --> 00:34:38,399
duke sullivan of world bigfoot radio

763
00:34:44,790 --> 00:34:40,960
joins us for the first time tonight it's

764
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all bigfoot big feet we are squatching

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00:34:48,629 --> 00:34:46,800
brian duke sullivan is a bigfoot

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researcher from montana

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he saw his first bigfoot in 1972 when he

768
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was just 10 years old he has been

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researching bigfoot for well over 40

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years and has had multiple sightings his

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00:35:01,670 --> 00:34:59,760
intense interest in bigfoot revolves

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around the behavioral attributes of

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these creatures versus proving their

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00:35:07,990 --> 00:35:05,760
existence

775
00:35:10,310 --> 00:35:08,000
duke is also an extremely well-versed

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00:35:13,270 --> 00:35:10,320
and self-described conspiracy theorist

777
00:35:15,510 --> 00:35:13,280
and has collaborated with wes germer

778
00:35:18,390 --> 00:35:15,520
from sasquatch chronicles on programs

779
00:35:20,790 --> 00:35:18,400
such as duke's conspiracy corner and the

780
00:35:22,950 --> 00:35:20,800
renegade podcast as well as being a

781
00:35:24,870 --> 00:35:22,960
frequent guest on sasquatch chronicles

782
00:35:28,230 --> 00:35:24,880
in addition to being a guest on strange

783
00:35:29,670 --> 00:35:28,240
familiars and the bigfoot outlaws and i

784
00:35:31,349 --> 00:35:29,680
would like to welcome for the first time

785
00:35:33,349 --> 00:35:31,359
i'm excited

786
00:35:35,190 --> 00:35:33,359
duke sullivan dude good evening my man

787
00:35:37,750 --> 00:35:35,200
how you doing

788
00:35:40,630 --> 00:35:37,760
this is uh one small step for a

789
00:35:42,870 --> 00:35:40,640
researcher one giant footprint for

790
00:35:45,990 --> 00:35:42,880
sasquatch

791
00:35:47,829 --> 00:35:46,000
my man 53 years ago today neil armstrong

792
00:35:49,910 --> 00:35:47,839
had to commemorate that howdy everybody

793
00:35:52,150 --> 00:35:49,920
glad to be here love y'all let's have

794
00:35:54,390 --> 00:35:52,160
some fun bigfoot fun yeah absolutely

795
00:35:57,270 --> 00:35:54,400
duke and you get

796
00:35:59,349 --> 00:35:57,280
the first time guest disclaimer and

797
00:36:01,270 --> 00:35:59,359
which is this duke it's just you and i

798
00:36:02,790 --> 00:36:01,280
sitting on my couch having a

799
00:36:04,390 --> 00:36:02,800
conversation as friends and where that

800
00:36:06,390 --> 00:36:04,400
conversation starts it starts where it

801
00:36:08,470 --> 00:36:06,400
ends it ends but we're gonna end his

802
00:36:09,589 --> 00:36:08,480
friends there you go

803
00:36:11,430 --> 00:36:09,599
you ready

804
00:36:12,470 --> 00:36:11,440
can i can i i'm just gonna tell

805
00:36:13,750 --> 00:36:12,480
everybody

806
00:36:15,910 --> 00:36:13,760
um

807
00:36:18,470 --> 00:36:15,920
everybody knows i'm a big coffee guy i

808
00:36:21,510 --> 00:36:18,480
have my own coffee brand and

809
00:36:23,030 --> 00:36:21,520
and and i i like to think that i drink a

810
00:36:26,550 --> 00:36:23,040
lot of coffee

811
00:36:28,630 --> 00:36:26,560
duke has got a one gallon

812
00:36:31,750 --> 00:36:28,640
he's got a one gallon coffee cup

813
00:36:33,829 --> 00:36:31,760
and and i couldn't when i i thought

814
00:36:35,910 --> 00:36:33,839
i thought it was like a fisheye lens

815
00:36:38,069 --> 00:36:35,920
duke

816
00:36:40,630 --> 00:36:38,079
what that actually is is a

817
00:36:42,950 --> 00:36:40,640
tampa bay buccaneers beer

818
00:36:45,589 --> 00:36:42,960
mug it's glass and it's it's got their

819
00:36:47,430 --> 00:36:45,599
skull with a little handkerchief around

820
00:36:49,510 --> 00:36:47,440
its head on it's just made out of glass

821
00:36:51,430 --> 00:36:49,520
so it holds heat or cold pretty well so

822
00:36:52,710 --> 00:36:51,440
i use that for either you know whatever

823
00:36:54,630 --> 00:36:52,720
i'm gonna drink out of it including

824
00:36:56,470 --> 00:36:54,640
coffee fill it up that's enough to get

825
00:36:59,910 --> 00:36:56,480
me hyper for a couple hours man your

826
00:37:01,510 --> 00:36:59,920
right arm just must be ginormous

827
00:37:03,109 --> 00:37:01,520
yeah you're doing curls i don't get like

828
00:37:04,710 --> 00:37:03,119
the teeny one on the left and the giant

829
00:37:07,349 --> 00:37:04,720
one on the right that would be a real

830
00:37:12,230 --> 00:37:10,310
oh man you know um uh duke uh tonight's

831
00:37:14,710 --> 00:37:12,240
gonna be a great show

832
00:37:16,630 --> 00:37:14,720
and i want to actually

833
00:37:18,390 --> 00:37:16,640
uh do the obvious i want to paint a

834
00:37:22,150 --> 00:37:18,400
picture for everybody

835
00:37:24,390 --> 00:37:22,160
um duke's uh channels and everything for

836
00:37:26,310 --> 00:37:24,400
world bigfoot radio

837
00:37:28,310 --> 00:37:26,320
over at jimmychurchradio.com and i

838
00:37:31,670 --> 00:37:28,320
encourage everybody to go and do that

839
00:37:34,790 --> 00:37:31,680
and i just saw that duke uh finally

840
00:37:38,230 --> 00:37:34,800
jumped into social media and got himself

841
00:37:41,910 --> 00:37:38,240
a twitter account as big and popular as

842
00:37:45,030 --> 00:37:41,920
world bigfoot radio is and

843
00:37:47,910 --> 00:37:45,040
the world of sasquatch which is probably

844
00:37:49,109 --> 00:37:47,920
uh multiple times bigger than the ufo

845
00:37:52,150 --> 00:37:49,119
community

846
00:37:53,829 --> 00:37:52,160
um you stayed off of social media and i

847
00:37:56,870 --> 00:37:53,839
i found that very interesting but you

848
00:37:59,430 --> 00:37:56,880
decided to take the twitter plunge

849
00:38:01,349 --> 00:37:59,440
oh well one of my trusted friends is

850
00:38:02,950 --> 00:38:01,359
actually handling that over there for me

851
00:38:05,349 --> 00:38:02,960
so that i don't i don't have to be on

852
00:38:07,030 --> 00:38:05,359
there because i'd last all of one minute

853
00:38:08,550 --> 00:38:07,040
and they'd kick me off so all right let

854
00:38:10,790 --> 00:38:08,560
somebody else take care of it you know

855
00:38:13,510 --> 00:38:10,800
what fair enough that's probably very

856
00:38:14,550 --> 00:38:13,520
very smart well i've got duke's uh new

857
00:38:19,990 --> 00:38:14,560
twitter

858
00:38:21,670 --> 00:38:20,000
follow duke and uh do head over uh to

859
00:38:22,390 --> 00:38:21,680
his channel and youtube and everything

860
00:38:23,910 --> 00:38:22,400
else the links are at

861
00:38:26,710 --> 00:38:23,920
jimmychurchradio.com

862
00:38:28,310 --> 00:38:26,720
so let's actually let's let's kind of

863
00:38:31,510 --> 00:38:28,320
start here

864
00:38:33,750 --> 00:38:31,520
let's go back to 1972

865
00:38:35,910 --> 00:38:33,760
um you're 10 years old

866
00:38:38,790 --> 00:38:35,920
uh which would mean that you and i are

867
00:38:41,990 --> 00:38:38,800
just about exactly the same age i'm 58

868
00:38:44,470 --> 00:38:42,000
okay so yeah uh we're right there so uh

869
00:38:46,630 --> 00:38:44,480
1972 you're 10

870
00:38:47,430 --> 00:38:46,640
uh what happened

871
00:38:49,109 --> 00:38:47,440
well

872
00:38:50,950 --> 00:38:49,119
uh i don't i don't want to make this

873
00:38:52,710 --> 00:38:50,960
story too long i had gone out with one

874
00:38:53,589 --> 00:38:52,720
of my friends scouting for sledding

875
00:38:54,870 --> 00:38:53,599
hills

876
00:38:56,150 --> 00:38:54,880
because in minnesota in the winter

877
00:38:57,510 --> 00:38:56,160
there's a whole lot of snow and a whole

878
00:38:58,790 --> 00:38:57,520
lot of nothing to do

879
00:38:59,990 --> 00:38:58,800
and if you happen to be lucky enough to

880
00:39:02,069 --> 00:39:00,000
be in a spot where there's some hills

881
00:39:03,349 --> 00:39:02,079
you can make your own sledding run so uh

882
00:39:05,430 --> 00:39:03,359
you know for kids that live out the

883
00:39:07,589 --> 00:39:05,440
middle of nowhere cheap entertainment

884
00:39:08,870 --> 00:39:07,599
get a you know plastic sled go make

885
00:39:11,109 --> 00:39:08,880
sledding runs

886
00:39:13,030 --> 00:39:11,119
well there was a nearby place where

887
00:39:14,470 --> 00:39:13,040
everybody would go to but it was overrun

888
00:39:16,310 --> 00:39:14,480
because it was all treeless and it was a

889
00:39:18,230 --> 00:39:16,320
nice big hill so all the snowmobiles and

890
00:39:19,349 --> 00:39:18,240
skiers and everyone used it so we were

891
00:39:21,349 --> 00:39:19,359
trying to find something back in the

892
00:39:22,870 --> 00:39:21,359
woods behind my house and we ended up

893
00:39:25,030 --> 00:39:22,880
there was a fire lane cut there that

894
00:39:27,349 --> 00:39:25,040
went back about

895
00:39:28,950 --> 00:39:27,359
maybe two two miles and then it kind of

896
00:39:31,430 --> 00:39:28,960
dead ended because there was a slew

897
00:39:33,349 --> 00:39:31,440
there they just couldn't get across so

898
00:39:34,630 --> 00:39:33,359
it was pointless to continue on to try

899
00:39:35,510 --> 00:39:34,640
and make a fire lane cut on the other

900
00:39:37,589 --> 00:39:35,520
side and you couldn't get anything

901
00:39:39,270 --> 00:39:37,599
across it so it just kind of dead ended

902
00:39:40,790 --> 00:39:39,280
there well we went back there in the

903
00:39:42,230 --> 00:39:40,800
winter and went you know we've never

904
00:39:44,069 --> 00:39:42,240
been across this thing and now that it's

905
00:39:46,390 --> 00:39:44,079
frozen solid we can lay on our sleds and

906
00:39:48,150 --> 00:39:46,400
slide across it so that's what we did we

907
00:39:49,190 --> 00:39:48,160
laid on our sleds we barely slid across

908
00:39:51,349 --> 00:39:49,200
this thing

909
00:39:52,790 --> 00:39:51,359
and uh you know this was like a bog so

910
00:39:54,310 --> 00:39:52,800
even in the winter when it was frozen

911
00:39:56,230 --> 00:39:54,320
solid you'd still be going up your waist

912
00:39:57,589 --> 00:39:56,240
trying to walk through it and hopefully

913
00:39:59,349 --> 00:39:57,599
you wouldn't be going into any patches

914
00:40:01,349 --> 00:39:59,359
where there's open water in which case

915
00:40:03,109 --> 00:40:01,359
bloop you're gone right so you have to

916
00:40:04,390 --> 00:40:03,119
be super careful these things winter

917
00:40:06,069 --> 00:40:04,400
summer whenever during the summer

918
00:40:07,589 --> 00:40:06,079
they're pretty much impassable

919
00:40:08,790 --> 00:40:07,599
which is part of the key to this whole

920
00:40:10,950 --> 00:40:08,800
thing

921
00:40:12,230 --> 00:40:10,960
so we get across there and we find that

922
00:40:13,109 --> 00:40:12,240
on the other side there's a really steep

923
00:40:15,589 --> 00:40:13,119
hill

924
00:40:17,430 --> 00:40:15,599
and actually we go up that and up above

925
00:40:19,349 --> 00:40:17,440
it there's another steep hill that you

926
00:40:20,630 --> 00:40:19,359
couldn't see from down below

927
00:40:21,990 --> 00:40:20,640
and when you got to the top of that

928
00:40:24,230 --> 00:40:22,000
there's a third steep hill you couldn't

929
00:40:25,510 --> 00:40:24,240
see from the other two so we're like in

930
00:40:27,430 --> 00:40:25,520
hog heaven you know this is awesome

931
00:40:29,349 --> 00:40:27,440
we've got the most [\h__\h] and ass letting

932
00:40:30,790 --> 00:40:29,359
run ever people are you know this is

933
00:40:33,030 --> 00:40:30,800
great we don't have to share with tons

934
00:40:35,270 --> 00:40:33,040
of people so the first time out there we

935
00:40:37,190 --> 00:40:35,280
spent a bunch of time making uh an

936
00:40:38,950 --> 00:40:37,200
actual luge run out of it making supers

937
00:40:40,550 --> 00:40:38,960
and stuff because the way the hill

938
00:40:42,630 --> 00:40:40,560
switched back and with trees all over

939
00:40:43,990 --> 00:40:42,640
the place at the speed we'd be going if

940
00:40:45,829 --> 00:40:44,000
you went flying up you're going to get

941
00:40:47,910 --> 00:40:45,839
killed you would hit a tree and be

942
00:40:49,190 --> 00:40:47,920
mashed and even as 10 year olds we had

943
00:40:51,750 --> 00:40:49,200
done this so much we were already

944
00:40:53,510 --> 00:40:51,760
skilled and watching olympic luge tracks

945
00:40:54,950 --> 00:40:53,520
and stuff like okay we need to build

946
00:40:56,230 --> 00:40:54,960
supers on this so we don't fly off and

947
00:40:58,470 --> 00:40:56,240
get killed

948
00:41:01,109 --> 00:40:58,480
so we waited uh until the following

949
00:41:03,430 --> 00:41:01,119
weekend um and in between there had been

950
00:41:04,790 --> 00:41:03,440
a little bit of a

951
00:41:06,470 --> 00:41:04,800
break in the weather it had gotten

952
00:41:07,990 --> 00:41:06,480
warmer and the snow had melted

953
00:41:09,990 --> 00:41:08,000
and then froze again so we went okay

954
00:41:11,430 --> 00:41:10,000
it's nice and compacted now let's get

955
00:41:12,230 --> 00:41:11,440
out there this weekend and go check it

956
00:41:14,150 --> 00:41:12,240
out

957
00:41:15,030 --> 00:41:14,160
so for the second time and last time

958
00:41:16,870 --> 00:41:15,040
ever

959
00:41:19,030 --> 00:41:16,880
we went out there and we went across

960
00:41:21,030 --> 00:41:19,040
there and we got up on the hill and

961
00:41:22,950 --> 00:41:21,040
everything was nice and solid and i had

962
00:41:24,550 --> 00:41:22,960
one friend with me dave and i said well

963
00:41:26,710 --> 00:41:24,560
you know this is going to be

964
00:41:27,990 --> 00:41:26,720
really dangerous there's just two of us

965
00:41:29,430 --> 00:41:28,000
you know and this is amazing like i

966
00:41:31,589 --> 00:41:29,440
think back on it and go man i had some

967
00:41:32,870 --> 00:41:31,599
common sense when i was a 10 year old

968
00:41:33,829 --> 00:41:32,880
but even though we were dumb and we're

969
00:41:35,829 --> 00:41:33,839
in the middle of nowhere we're still

970
00:41:38,230 --> 00:41:35,839
like okay safety first if we both get

971
00:41:39,829 --> 00:41:38,240
mangled at the same time there won't be

972
00:41:42,069 --> 00:41:39,839
anyone to get help

973
00:41:44,150 --> 00:41:42,079
so one of us at a time will take turns

974
00:41:46,309 --> 00:41:44,160
going to the top and trying to make it

975
00:41:48,390 --> 00:41:46,319
down and survive and the other one will

976
00:41:49,990 --> 00:41:48,400
sit about halfway down

977
00:41:52,150 --> 00:41:50,000
in case you need to help stop him or

978
00:41:55,030 --> 00:41:52,160
something or pick up a mangled corpse

979
00:41:56,870 --> 00:41:55,040
that went off and go get help it's like

980
00:41:58,309 --> 00:41:56,880
this is really super steep and dangerous

981
00:41:59,829 --> 00:41:58,319
so we were super paranoid even though we

982
00:42:01,910 --> 00:41:59,839
were crazy kids

983
00:42:04,069 --> 00:42:01,920
so we did one slow run each one of us

984
00:42:05,990 --> 00:42:04,079
took a run down it the second one we did

985
00:42:07,589 --> 00:42:06,000
like a medium speed one we both survived

986
00:42:09,030 --> 00:42:07,599
that and then i was going to do the

987
00:42:11,109 --> 00:42:09,040
first high speed one and dave was

988
00:42:13,349 --> 00:42:11,119
stationed halfway down to watch and i

989
00:42:14,870 --> 00:42:13,359
got up to the top and put my sled down

990
00:42:17,270 --> 00:42:14,880
and i was just about to jump on it and i

991
00:42:18,790 --> 00:42:17,280
went there's something different

992
00:42:21,589 --> 00:42:18,800
than the last time i was up here a few

993
00:42:24,470 --> 00:42:21,599
minutes ago something looks different

994
00:42:25,910 --> 00:42:24,480
and everything's dead still and it's

995
00:42:27,430 --> 00:42:25,920
really clear it's about two o'clock in

996
00:42:30,150 --> 00:42:27,440
the afternoon and this is you know

997
00:42:31,910 --> 00:42:30,160
february and it was a balmy 20 degrees

998
00:42:34,069 --> 00:42:31,920
below zero

999
00:42:36,390 --> 00:42:34,079
uh we had just come out of a cold snap

1000
00:42:39,109 --> 00:42:36,400
or the county next to us hit a low of 52

1001
00:42:41,430 --> 00:42:39,119
below ambient temperature so brutal

1002
00:42:42,950 --> 00:42:41,440
brutal call right so it's 20 below and

1003
00:42:45,990 --> 00:42:42,960
we're like okay awesome let's go play

1004
00:42:48,870 --> 00:42:46,000
outside yeah it warmed up yes yeah it

1005
00:42:50,550 --> 00:42:48,880
warmed up 32 degrees to only 20 below so

1006
00:42:52,790 --> 00:42:50,560
i'm looking back behind me and most of

1007
00:42:54,870 --> 00:42:52,800
this hillside slopes away from the top

1008
00:42:55,990 --> 00:42:54,880
that i was on and it's all

1009
00:42:57,589 --> 00:42:56,000
um

1010
00:42:59,030 --> 00:42:57,599
just deciduous trees so they're all

1011
00:43:00,309 --> 00:42:59,040
leafless and barren there's a little bit

1012
00:43:01,829 --> 00:43:00,319
of snow on them so you can see through

1013
00:43:03,829 --> 00:43:01,839
them easily there's nothing there but

1014
00:43:04,870 --> 00:43:03,839
over on my right hand side there's a

1015
00:43:07,430 --> 00:43:04,880
huge

1016
00:43:08,550 --> 00:43:07,440
uh black spruce about 40 feet away from

1017
00:43:09,829 --> 00:43:08,560
me

1018
00:43:12,230 --> 00:43:09,839
and i'm looking at that and i'm going

1019
00:43:13,430 --> 00:43:12,240
what is different no who cares go on get

1020
00:43:14,790 --> 00:43:13,440
out of the sled

1021
00:43:16,069 --> 00:43:14,800
and i start to turn around and there was

1022
00:43:17,990 --> 00:43:16,079
like something in the back of my mind

1023
00:43:19,510 --> 00:43:18,000
going ah there's something behind you

1024
00:43:21,109 --> 00:43:19,520
and i turned around and looked again and

1025
00:43:23,670 --> 00:43:21,119
this time i noticed

1026
00:43:24,950 --> 00:43:23,680
that what i had perceived to be wrong

1027
00:43:27,349 --> 00:43:24,960
with the scene and hadn't really caught

1028
00:43:29,510 --> 00:43:27,359
my brain was that the trunk of the tree

1029
00:43:31,510 --> 00:43:29,520
had three trunks now

1030
00:43:33,670 --> 00:43:31,520
and two of them had this long grayish

1031
00:43:35,030 --> 00:43:33,680
hair with little snow dingle balls on it

1032
00:43:36,309 --> 00:43:35,040
and they were the same thickness as the

1033
00:43:37,990 --> 00:43:36,319
tree trunk

1034
00:43:39,750 --> 00:43:38,000
and i was like uh

1035
00:43:41,109 --> 00:43:39,760
well my immediate thought as a kid is

1036
00:43:42,230 --> 00:43:41,119
that some other kid had found our

1037
00:43:43,589 --> 00:43:42,240
sledding run

1038
00:43:45,190 --> 00:43:43,599
and they were wearing some of those free

1039
00:43:47,829 --> 00:43:45,200
snow pants they used to make back in the

1040
00:43:48,870 --> 00:43:47,839
70s and we were busted and now they were

1041
00:43:50,950 --> 00:43:48,880
going to come back there and everybody

1042
00:43:52,470 --> 00:43:50,960
was going to overrun our sled run so i

1043
00:43:54,309 --> 00:43:52,480
looked up in the tree to about where a

1044
00:43:56,390 --> 00:43:54,319
kid or an adult's head would be and

1045
00:43:57,750 --> 00:43:56,400
nothing and then i saw this rustling up

1046
00:44:00,550 --> 00:43:57,760
above so i turned my gaze a little bit

1047
00:44:03,190 --> 00:44:00,560
higher and about nine feet up

1048
00:44:04,630 --> 00:44:03,200
there was this evil face looking at me

1049
00:44:06,790 --> 00:44:04,640
and he had his hands holding the

1050
00:44:08,309 --> 00:44:06,800
branches apart fingers holding down one

1051
00:44:10,870 --> 00:44:08,319
branch and fingers holding up the other

1052
00:44:12,790 --> 00:44:10,880
branch he's looking at me and as soon as

1053
00:44:15,190 --> 00:44:12,800
i saw him he had this look of shock like

1054
00:44:16,390 --> 00:44:15,200
he was not expecting that somebody would

1055
00:44:18,069 --> 00:44:16,400
see him

1056
00:44:19,430 --> 00:44:18,079
and he registered the shock for a minute

1057
00:44:20,950 --> 00:44:19,440
and then he grinned

1058
00:44:24,390 --> 00:44:20,960
and that scared the hell out of me

1059
00:44:25,910 --> 00:44:24,400
because his mouth went from ear to ear

1060
00:44:27,430 --> 00:44:25,920
and he had teeth that looked at me like

1061
00:44:28,870 --> 00:44:27,440
a shark or something the other thing i

1062
00:44:30,950 --> 00:44:28,880
noticed is that the

1063
00:44:33,589 --> 00:44:30,960
tips of his fingers had what looked like

1064
00:44:35,349 --> 00:44:33,599
blackish talons to me not fingernails so

1065
00:44:37,910 --> 00:44:35,359
i immediately decided hey i don't know

1066
00:44:39,990 --> 00:44:37,920
what this is and b it's a carnivore and

1067
00:44:41,910 --> 00:44:40,000
i need to get the hell out of here so at

1068
00:44:43,750 --> 00:44:41,920
that point i decided that well i would

1069
00:44:45,190 --> 00:44:43,760
just try and break the world lose speed

1070
00:44:47,829 --> 00:44:45,200
record going

1071
00:44:50,150 --> 00:44:47,839
down this super dangerous hill nobody's

1072
00:44:51,829 --> 00:44:50,160
gone down fast before well you know it's

1073
00:44:53,430 --> 00:44:51,839
like i'd rather fly off the the one of

1074
00:44:55,990 --> 00:44:53,440
the supers and get killed than have that

1075
00:44:58,550 --> 00:44:56,000
thing catch me that was my thing did you

1076
00:45:01,109 --> 00:44:58,560
say like shark teeth like great white

1077
00:45:02,870 --> 00:45:01,119
like yeah exactly like great white shark

1078
00:45:04,790 --> 00:45:02,880
teeth this thing whatever it was was not

1079
00:45:06,309 --> 00:45:04,800
a standard bigfoot

1080
00:45:08,230 --> 00:45:06,319
and talons

1081
00:45:09,510 --> 00:45:08,240
yep it looked like just what you see on

1082
00:45:11,510 --> 00:45:09,520
an eagle or something that's what its

1083
00:45:13,910 --> 00:45:11,520
fingernails look like if they were

1084
00:45:16,230 --> 00:45:13,920
fingernails they looked like talons now

1085
00:45:18,470 --> 00:45:16,240
and you said 40 feet away so you're

1086
00:45:20,150 --> 00:45:18,480
you're close i'm getting a really close

1087
00:45:22,150 --> 00:45:20,160
look at it and this is you know midday

1088
00:45:24,710 --> 00:45:22,160
two o'clock in the afternoon bright sun

1089
00:45:27,430 --> 00:45:24,720
right clear 20 blow day with all that

1090
00:45:29,589 --> 00:45:27,440
reflection off the snow you see

1091
00:45:31,349 --> 00:45:29,599
everything incredibly clear and i've got

1092
00:45:33,270 --> 00:45:31,359
a picture of him it was reconstructed

1093
00:45:35,270 --> 00:45:33,280
for me by a forensic artist

1094
00:45:37,190 --> 00:45:35,280
that um you know gives people nightmares

1095
00:45:37,910 --> 00:45:37,200
when they look at it

1096
00:45:40,470 --> 00:45:37,920
so

1097
00:45:43,190 --> 00:45:40,480
i'm assuming uh

1098
00:45:46,069 --> 00:45:43,200
you set the world luge record

1099
00:45:48,150 --> 00:45:46,079
i did actually survive it okay um i

1100
00:45:49,430 --> 00:45:48,160
remember as i got near dave he had this

1101
00:45:51,030 --> 00:45:49,440
look on his face like something

1102
00:45:52,870 --> 00:45:51,040
seriously wrong

1103
00:45:55,109 --> 00:45:52,880
and it didn't seem like because i was

1104
00:45:57,430 --> 00:45:55,119
going so fast

1105
00:45:59,589 --> 00:45:57,440
and uh must have been the look on my

1106
00:46:02,309 --> 00:45:59,599
face because then his eyes got really

1107
00:46:04,630 --> 00:46:02,319
big and as i flew past him at utmost

1108
00:46:06,390 --> 00:46:04,640
speed i said run like hell

1109
00:46:36,630 --> 00:46:06,400
and you know he must have got the hand

1110
00:46:39,349 --> 00:46:37,430
right

1111
00:46:41,030 --> 00:46:39,359
the other interesting thing when he

1112
00:46:43,270 --> 00:46:41,040
finally caught up to me he didn't say

1113
00:46:58,390 --> 00:46:43,280
anything about it

1114
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:02,150
happened for almost

1115
00:47:09,829 --> 00:47:03,990
two years later dave was talking about

1116
00:47:53,270 --> 00:47:10,630
no

1117
00:47:56,710 --> 00:47:55,109
because i want

1118
00:48:03,750 --> 00:47:56,720
to be outside all the time no matter

1119
00:48:08,069 --> 00:48:06,230
never any questions asked right right

1120
00:48:10,150 --> 00:48:08,079
right right of course did you go

1121
00:48:12,549 --> 00:48:10,160
straight into uh

1122
00:48:14,230 --> 00:48:12,559
uh squatch research

1123
00:48:15,829 --> 00:48:14,240
well no i mean keep in mind the first

1124
00:48:18,069 --> 00:48:15,839
two years after i saw this i didn't even

1125
00:48:20,710 --> 00:48:18,079
know that i had seen it and then after

1126
00:48:22,390 --> 00:48:20,720
the memory came back it was so scary

1127
00:48:24,069 --> 00:48:22,400
i just decided well whatever that was

1128
00:48:25,750 --> 00:48:24,079
i'll stay out of the woods and you know

1129
00:48:27,910 --> 00:48:25,760
it won't get me

1130
00:48:30,549 --> 00:48:27,920
yeah and i was also living in a place

1131
00:48:32,790 --> 00:48:30,559
where my dad had a gun shop in the house

1132
00:48:34,390 --> 00:48:32,800
we had a shooting range behind the house

1133
00:48:36,549 --> 00:48:34,400
i was collecting guns

1134
00:48:38,470 --> 00:48:36,559
so i was rambo ready for anything that

1135
00:48:40,069 --> 00:48:38,480
came up on the property but if i was

1136
00:48:42,150 --> 00:48:40,079
wandering around the woods by myself i

1137
00:48:44,790 --> 00:48:42,160
had you know more severe qualms about

1138
00:48:50,150 --> 00:48:44,800
running into so you do uh you know and i

1139
00:48:51,910 --> 00:48:50,160
think about 1972 73 74 uh that time so

1140
00:48:55,030 --> 00:48:51,920
fondly because

1141
00:48:56,790 --> 00:48:55,040
uh bigfoot became a big deal right

1142
00:48:58,549 --> 00:48:56,800
people were talking about it and now

1143
00:49:00,790 --> 00:48:58,559
it's on tv and

1144
00:49:04,309 --> 00:49:00,800
yep and you started to see this stuff

1145
00:49:06,069 --> 00:49:04,319
too as well how did you react to that

1146
00:49:07,750 --> 00:49:06,079
well you know once the memory came back

1147
00:49:09,270 --> 00:49:07,760
to me then of course i got curious what

1148
00:49:11,349 --> 00:49:09,280
the heck i'd seen out in the woods that

1149
00:49:12,790 --> 00:49:11,359
had scared me so bad

1150
00:49:14,230 --> 00:49:12,800
and i started looking into it a little

1151
00:49:17,030 --> 00:49:14,240
bit more and i read all the little books

1152
00:49:18,710 --> 00:49:17,040
that you know you said 74 they didn't

1153
00:49:20,150 --> 00:49:18,720
have anything out there you know there

1154
00:49:22,390 --> 00:49:20,160
was no internet there was hardly any

1155
00:49:24,870 --> 00:49:22,400
books on cryptids occasionally get a

1156
00:49:27,190 --> 00:49:24,880
newspaper article or there'd be some you

1157
00:49:28,710 --> 00:49:27,200
know b-league documentary for a tv show

1158
00:49:30,390 --> 00:49:28,720
or something where you get to see

1159
00:49:32,630 --> 00:49:30,400
something about the loch ness monster or

1160
00:49:35,109 --> 00:49:32,640
bigfoot or something but the information

1161
00:49:36,470 --> 00:49:35,119
was just so limited and of course the

1162
00:49:38,870 --> 00:49:36,480
first thing that stuck out like a sore

1163
00:49:41,750 --> 00:49:38,880
thumb whacked by a sledgehammer

1164
00:49:43,270 --> 00:49:41,760
was uh the pg film patterson gimlin film

1165
00:49:45,670 --> 00:49:43,280
with patty you know it still hasn't been

1166
00:49:47,750 --> 00:49:45,680
debunked after all these gazillion years

1167
00:49:48,950 --> 00:49:47,760
and i saw that thing and i was like oh

1168
00:49:50,230 --> 00:49:48,960
wait a minute now there's some kind of

1169
00:49:51,910 --> 00:49:50,240
film one of these big things running

1170
00:49:53,109 --> 00:49:51,920
around the woods let me go check it out

1171
00:49:55,510 --> 00:49:53,119
and i looked at it and i went that

1172
00:49:57,829 --> 00:49:55,520
doesn't help at all

1173
00:49:59,589 --> 00:49:57,839
wow that doesn't look like what i saw so

1174
00:50:01,430 --> 00:49:59,599
there's two different kinds of these

1175
00:50:03,349 --> 00:50:01,440
things running around the woods now that

1176
00:50:05,990 --> 00:50:03,359
makes me doubly paranoid not wanting to

1177
00:50:08,710 --> 00:50:06,000
go out there yeah yeah uh

1178
00:50:11,829 --> 00:50:08,720
the patterson gimlin film

1179
00:50:13,270 --> 00:50:11,839
isn't a scary film it's an excellent

1180
00:50:19,670 --> 00:50:13,280
film

1181
00:50:20,630 --> 00:50:19,680
it it it it it doesn't it doesn't scare

1182
00:50:21,750 --> 00:50:20,640
you

1183
00:50:23,349 --> 00:50:21,760
right

1184
00:50:24,950 --> 00:50:23,359
there is no not really it's just like

1185
00:50:26,790 --> 00:50:24,960
what's this big weird thing running you

1186
00:50:28,390 --> 00:50:26,800
know walking away from this guy

1187
00:50:29,829 --> 00:50:28,400
who by the way is running at full speed

1188
00:50:31,670 --> 00:50:29,839
with his camera trying to catch up to it

1189
00:50:34,150 --> 00:50:31,680
and it's walking away and it's getting

1190
00:50:35,670 --> 00:50:34,160
away from him which tells you how big

1191
00:50:39,670 --> 00:50:35,680
this thing is

1192
00:50:41,670 --> 00:50:39,680
one was uh i'm looking at the clock

1193
00:50:43,109 --> 00:50:41,680
when was your next sighting or what was

1194
00:50:44,790 --> 00:50:43,119
your next sighting

1195
00:50:46,470 --> 00:50:44,800
well the next one is what actually got

1196
00:50:48,950 --> 00:50:46,480
me interested in doing research because

1197
00:50:50,950 --> 00:50:48,960
it was in 1977 it was in the early

1198
00:50:53,030 --> 00:50:50,960
summer or the late spring

1199
00:50:54,630 --> 00:50:53,040
and my folks were having a get-together

1200
00:50:56,870 --> 00:50:54,640
at the house which like

1201
00:50:58,470 --> 00:50:56,880
just never happened i can remember like

1202
00:51:00,230 --> 00:50:58,480
two or three times the entire time i was

1203
00:51:01,510 --> 00:51:00,240
a kid where they had people over and

1204
00:51:03,670 --> 00:51:01,520
this was probably the biggest gathering

1205
00:51:05,910 --> 00:51:03,680
they had it's the local lions club or

1206
00:51:08,710 --> 00:51:05,920
something and they had some get together

1207
00:51:10,870 --> 00:51:08,720
and um also in minnesota

1208
00:51:14,150 --> 00:51:10,880
also in minnesota yeah this is

1209
00:51:15,990 --> 00:51:14,160
same house and uh five years later

1210
00:51:17,750 --> 00:51:16,000
um

1211
00:51:19,430 --> 00:51:17,760
interestingly i have to backtrack a

1212
00:51:20,710 --> 00:51:19,440
little bit before the next sighting

1213
00:51:22,870 --> 00:51:20,720
happened

1214
00:51:24,710 --> 00:51:22,880
we actually heard really strange

1215
00:51:26,710 --> 00:51:24,720
vocalizations around the house about a

1216
00:51:28,710 --> 00:51:26,720
week and a half two weeks before that

1217
00:51:30,710 --> 00:51:28,720
right in the middle of the afternoon

1218
00:51:32,069 --> 00:51:30,720
and i could not identify what it was my

1219
00:51:34,390 --> 00:51:32,079
mom could hear it too she was washing

1220
00:51:35,589 --> 00:51:34,400
dishes and i said mom what is that

1221
00:51:37,270 --> 00:51:35,599
you know and she grew up over in

1222
00:51:39,349 --> 00:51:37,280
wisconsin just near that area and she

1223
00:51:41,030 --> 00:51:39,359
said i don't know i've never heard

1224
00:51:42,950 --> 00:51:41,040
anything like that before

1225
00:51:44,230 --> 00:51:42,960
go get your little brother in the house

1226
00:51:45,910 --> 00:51:44,240
so i went and got him and brought him in

1227
00:51:48,069 --> 00:51:45,920
the house and then i went outside trying

1228
00:51:51,030 --> 00:51:48,079
to identify where the sound came from

1229
00:51:52,230 --> 00:51:51,040
and it would go and stop and then

1230
00:51:53,349 --> 00:51:52,240
two three minutes later it would start

1231
00:51:55,270 --> 00:51:53,359
again but it'd be in a different

1232
00:51:57,190 --> 00:51:55,280
location and it was loud you could hear

1233
00:51:59,430 --> 00:51:57,200
it all over the yard so whatever it was

1234
00:52:01,190 --> 00:51:59,440
moving around in the heavy uh foliage in

1235
00:52:02,950 --> 00:52:01,200
the bushes and stuff just off the yard

1236
00:52:04,790 --> 00:52:02,960
into the woods where you couldn't see it

1237
00:52:06,390 --> 00:52:04,800
moving around and being stealthy enough

1238
00:52:08,150 --> 00:52:06,400
you couldn't hear it and every so often

1239
00:52:09,750 --> 00:52:08,160
would change position to do this and it

1240
00:52:10,630 --> 00:52:09,760
wasn't until years later when i heard

1241
00:52:12,710 --> 00:52:10,640
the

1242
00:52:13,750 --> 00:52:12,720
sierra sounds by alberia and ron

1243
00:52:16,549 --> 00:52:13,760
moorhead

1244
00:52:20,150 --> 00:52:16,559
where i heard the exact same sound

1245
00:52:24,309 --> 00:52:20,160
of that tasmanian devil uh disgruntled

1246
00:52:27,190 --> 00:52:25,670
yes yes

1247
00:52:29,109 --> 00:52:27,200
yeah man you do that really you're

1248
00:52:32,150 --> 00:52:29,119
hearing that every two or three minutes

1249
00:52:35,190 --> 00:52:32,160
or about 45 minutes and going what the

1250
00:52:37,589 --> 00:52:35,200
bleep is making this damn noise i'm

1251
00:52:39,510 --> 00:52:37,599
getting creeped out now well here it was

1252
00:52:41,990 --> 00:52:39,520
a week and a half later and it was about

1253
00:52:44,309 --> 00:52:42,000
an hour after dark and the party was in

1254
00:52:46,150 --> 00:52:44,319
full force and we had a driveway about

1255
00:52:47,750 --> 00:52:46,160
as long as a football field and cars

1256
00:52:49,349 --> 00:52:47,760
parked all the way down both sides of it

1257
00:52:50,630 --> 00:52:49,359
and out on the road beyond it so we had

1258
00:52:51,990 --> 00:52:50,640
a big group there

1259
00:52:53,430 --> 00:52:52,000
and one of the adults said hey we're

1260
00:52:55,270 --> 00:52:53,440
running low on beer

1261
00:52:57,349 --> 00:52:55,280
send somebody out to my car and get the

1262
00:52:59,349 --> 00:52:57,359
beer it's in the back seat okay which

1263
00:53:01,670 --> 00:52:59,359
one is it so the third car down on the

1264
00:53:03,430 --> 00:53:01,680
right hand side it's in the back seat on

1265
00:53:06,069 --> 00:53:03,440
the passenger side okay so i'll have to

1266
00:53:07,510 --> 00:53:06,079
do is walk down the driveway okay so i

1267
00:53:09,430 --> 00:53:07,520
go walking out the door and i take the

1268
00:53:11,829 --> 00:53:09,440
two steps down to the

1269
00:53:13,910 --> 00:53:11,839
lower sidewalk and i go down there and

1270
00:53:16,069 --> 00:53:13,920
i'm looking down below now there's a

1271
00:53:17,670 --> 00:53:16,079
porch lamp up at the top where you go in

1272
00:53:19,829 --> 00:53:17,680
the door but as you get progressively

1273
00:53:21,190 --> 00:53:19,839
lower the light is dimmer and dimmer and

1274
00:53:23,270 --> 00:53:21,200
when you get even with the top of the

1275
00:53:24,710 --> 00:53:23,280
vehicles it's pitch black you can't see

1276
00:53:26,390 --> 00:53:24,720
anything out there

1277
00:53:27,910 --> 00:53:26,400
so i'm getting lower and lower and my

1278
00:53:29,910 --> 00:53:27,920
eyes are starting to adjust to the dark

1279
00:53:32,390 --> 00:53:29,920
and i'm turning just stepping onto the

1280
00:53:35,030 --> 00:53:32,400
gravel driveway and looking to my right

1281
00:53:37,190 --> 00:53:35,040
and i see these two big eyes

1282
00:53:38,950 --> 00:53:37,200
and they look like green sunglasses you

1283
00:53:40,470 --> 00:53:38,960
know the old 70s sunglasses with the

1284
00:53:42,230 --> 00:53:40,480
droopy bottom and so that's what it

1285
00:53:43,589 --> 00:53:42,240
looked like and so i was going to give

1286
00:53:44,950 --> 00:53:43,599
somebody hell you know who's this drunk

1287
00:53:46,309 --> 00:53:44,960
walking up here in the dark with

1288
00:53:47,750 --> 00:53:46,319
sunglasses on where you can't see

1289
00:53:49,190 --> 00:53:47,760
anything exactly

1290
00:53:50,790 --> 00:53:49,200
okay here's the difference between those

1291
00:53:52,790 --> 00:53:50,800
and yours first of all they had a green

1292
00:53:54,710 --> 00:53:52,800
lens and secondly there was about six

1293
00:53:57,510 --> 00:53:54,720
inches in between them

1294
00:53:59,190 --> 00:53:57,520
oh holy and that's what made me go wait

1295
00:54:01,750 --> 00:53:59,200
a minute that's not somebody with

1296
00:54:03,190 --> 00:54:01,760
sunglasses on and at that point i was

1297
00:54:04,630 --> 00:54:03,200
getting low enough down into where the

1298
00:54:06,230 --> 00:54:04,640
darkness was that i was starting to be

1299
00:54:07,990 --> 00:54:06,240
able to see a shape

1300
00:54:09,829 --> 00:54:08,000
there was something squatting in the

1301
00:54:11,430 --> 00:54:09,839
middle of the driveway waiting for me to

1302
00:54:13,190 --> 00:54:11,440
walk up to it

1303
00:54:15,910 --> 00:54:13,200
and that was its eyes

1304
00:54:17,670 --> 00:54:15,920
and now we had really huge bears there

1305
00:54:19,270 --> 00:54:17,680
so initially i thought it was this one

1306
00:54:20,710 --> 00:54:19,280
bear that had tried to actually uh get

1307
00:54:22,390 --> 00:54:20,720
one of us before

1308
00:54:24,950 --> 00:54:22,400
that we had a nickname for that doesn't

1309
00:54:26,630 --> 00:54:24,960
bear repeating on the air and at this

1310
00:54:28,150 --> 00:54:26,640
point he was about a car and a half away

1311
00:54:29,589 --> 00:54:28,160
from me and i'm still walking toward him

1312
00:54:31,349 --> 00:54:29,599
well if this is a bear and i turn and

1313
00:54:32,870 --> 00:54:31,359
run i'm dead right because they can

1314
00:54:35,109 --> 00:54:32,880
catch you easily

1315
00:54:37,510 --> 00:54:35,119
so what my thought process is i need to

1316
00:54:39,270 --> 00:54:37,520
slow down and buy some time here so i

1317
00:54:41,190 --> 00:54:39,280
start fiddling with the door latches on

1318
00:54:42,870 --> 00:54:41,200
the cars that i'm going past as if i'm

1319
00:54:44,230 --> 00:54:42,880
trying to get in them whether they

1320
00:54:45,750 --> 00:54:44,240
actually open or not i'm just fiddling

1321
00:54:47,670 --> 00:54:45,760
with them trying to think what i should

1322
00:54:49,510 --> 00:54:47,680
do my eyes are adjusting i'm getting a

1323
00:54:51,589 --> 00:54:49,520
better chance to look at them now i

1324
00:54:54,630 --> 00:54:51,599
notice the object in front of me is not

1325
00:54:56,630 --> 00:54:54,640
human shaped it's more like a big blob

1326
00:54:59,270 --> 00:54:56,640
and

1327
00:55:02,390 --> 00:54:59,280
it doesn't have

1328
00:55:03,829 --> 00:55:02,400
the outline of a bear

1329
00:55:05,270 --> 00:55:03,839
and i'm like okay what's the next

1330
00:55:07,190 --> 00:55:05,280
available spot to duck through here i

1331
00:55:07,990 --> 00:55:07,200
have to walk down to the end of this car

1332
00:55:11,430 --> 00:55:08,000
right

1333
00:55:13,190 --> 00:55:11,440
in between the front bumper the one in

1334
00:55:14,549 --> 00:55:13,200
the back of the other one

1335
00:55:16,069 --> 00:55:14,559
and get through there really fast so

1336
00:55:17,990 --> 00:55:16,079
i've got a car between me and this thing

1337
00:55:20,069 --> 00:55:18,000
at least it has to clamber over a car to

1338
00:55:21,829 --> 00:55:20,079
get to me that'll slow it down i've got

1339
00:55:23,670 --> 00:55:21,839
time to start my sprint three cars up to

1340
00:55:25,750 --> 00:55:23,680
get to the door

1341
00:55:27,829 --> 00:55:25,760
as i come down to that position where

1342
00:55:29,510 --> 00:55:27,839
i'm just about to turn and get behind

1343
00:55:32,549 --> 00:55:29,520
the bumper

1344
00:55:34,549 --> 00:55:32,559
i realize that what i'm looking at has

1345
00:55:36,309 --> 00:55:34,559
shoulders

1346
00:55:37,990 --> 00:55:36,319
and it's actually squatting on its

1347
00:55:40,710 --> 00:55:38,000
haunches and has its knuckles on the

1348
00:55:43,349 --> 00:55:40,720
ground and it's as tall as i am

1349
00:55:45,910 --> 00:55:43,359
and about five feet wide

1350
00:55:48,789 --> 00:55:45,920
and then i go oh my god

1351
00:55:50,309 --> 00:55:48,799
that's not a bear

1352
00:55:52,470 --> 00:55:50,319
now i'm really scared because you can

1353
00:55:55,190 --> 00:55:52,480
predict somewhat what a bear might do

1354
00:55:56,870 --> 00:55:55,200
with this thing i have no idea and as

1355
00:55:59,430 --> 00:55:56,880
i'm trying to squeeze my way through

1356
00:56:00,870 --> 00:55:59,440
there momentarily i've got my back to

1357
00:56:02,390 --> 00:56:00,880
this thing and it's eight feet away from

1358
00:56:03,990 --> 00:56:02,400
me he could have literally just stood up

1359
00:56:06,069 --> 00:56:04,000
and leaned over and grabbed me right

1360
00:56:07,910 --> 00:56:06,079
right and i finally closed my way in

1361
00:56:10,150 --> 00:56:07,920
between the two cars and immediately

1362
00:56:12,069 --> 00:56:10,160
ducked down and like i was almost on all

1363
00:56:14,150 --> 00:56:12,079
fours knuckles dragging on the ground i

1364
00:56:15,990 --> 00:56:14,160
was so low ran as fast as i could so i'm

1365
00:56:17,589 --> 00:56:16,000
under the cover behind those cars and

1366
00:56:19,910 --> 00:56:17,599
then popped up into the light got into

1367
00:56:21,750 --> 00:56:19,920
the house ran inside to the gun cabinet

1368
00:56:23,910 --> 00:56:21,760
with that look on my face

1369
00:56:25,670 --> 00:56:23,920
and my dad said what happened and i

1370
00:56:27,430 --> 00:56:25,680
yelled the name of the bear whose name

1371
00:56:29,270 --> 00:56:27,440
does not bear repeating

1372
00:56:30,950 --> 00:56:29,280
and i grabbed the 12-gauge shotgun and

1373
00:56:32,950 --> 00:56:30,960
he grabbed his big hunting rifle and we

1374
00:56:34,950 --> 00:56:32,960
both ran out the door but of course by

1375
00:56:37,270 --> 00:56:34,960
the time we got out there said object

1376
00:56:38,870 --> 00:56:37,280
whatever it was had disappeared again so

1377
00:56:41,430 --> 00:56:38,880
now at that point i decided that it

1378
00:56:43,109 --> 00:56:41,440
doesn't matter if i stay at the house

1379
00:56:45,510 --> 00:56:43,119
they could still be here

1380
00:56:47,349 --> 00:56:45,520
i need to learn more about these things

1381
00:56:48,789 --> 00:56:47,359
because apparently i can't avoid it just

1382
00:56:50,789 --> 00:56:48,799
by staying at home

1383
00:56:52,390 --> 00:56:50,799
so i might as well just go wherever i

1384
00:56:55,910 --> 00:56:52,400
want but i need to know more about these

1385
00:56:56,829 --> 00:56:55,920
things now you're 15 years old and when

1386
00:56:59,190 --> 00:56:56,839
you're

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15 you have

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00:57:03,270 --> 00:57:01,280
uh no fear

1389
00:57:05,109 --> 00:57:03,280
were you scared

1390
00:57:07,190 --> 00:57:05,119
oh hell yeah you were

1391
00:57:08,950 --> 00:57:07,200
oh yeah well i had you know

1392
00:57:11,430 --> 00:57:08,960
we had a county dump about a mile and a

1393
00:57:13,109 --> 00:57:11,440
half away from where i lived and we had

1394
00:57:15,270 --> 00:57:13,119
bears coming through there all the time

1395
00:57:16,630 --> 00:57:15,280
and they are dangerous and don't let

1396
00:57:18,630 --> 00:57:16,640
anybody tell you that they can't be

1397
00:57:20,630 --> 00:57:18,640
black bears will hunt humans more

1398
00:57:22,230 --> 00:57:20,640
commonly than grizzly bear as well

1399
00:57:23,910 --> 00:57:22,240
grizzly bears generally mug you because

1400
00:57:25,750 --> 00:57:23,920
you surprised them black bears will

1401
00:57:27,670 --> 00:57:25,760
actually profile the hot and kill humans

1402
00:57:29,349 --> 00:57:27,680
and it's happened plenty of times

1403
00:57:31,829 --> 00:57:29,359
and we did have one around our area that

1404
00:57:34,069 --> 00:57:31,839
was eventually hit by a state patrol car

1405
00:57:36,150 --> 00:57:34,079
by accident which smashed the state

1406
00:57:39,190 --> 00:57:36,160
patrol car he was on high-speed recall

1407
00:57:41,190 --> 00:57:39,200
and he had it and this thing had uh 720

1408
00:57:42,789 --> 00:57:41,200
pounds he left one of his front

1409
00:57:43,990 --> 00:57:42,799
footprint tracks in our driveway at one

1410
00:57:46,870 --> 00:57:44,000
point that was seven and a half inches

1411
00:57:49,109 --> 00:57:46,880
across right so we were always watching

1412
00:57:50,390 --> 00:57:49,119
watchful for bears and we knew we had

1413
00:57:52,069 --> 00:57:50,400
that one in the area that was actually

1414
00:57:53,349 --> 00:57:52,079
trying to get people

1415
00:57:55,190 --> 00:57:53,359
until he got creamed by that state

1416
00:57:56,390 --> 00:57:55,200
patrol car he was around and you know

1417
00:57:58,630 --> 00:57:56,400
that doesn't mean there aren't other

1418
00:57:59,910 --> 00:57:58,640
ones so yeah you were really careful

1419
00:58:01,270 --> 00:57:59,920
when you were out there in the dark you

1420
00:58:03,270 --> 00:58:01,280
know there was times when we'd go in the

1421
00:58:04,309 --> 00:58:03,280
fall to go get on the school bus it was

1422
00:58:06,150 --> 00:58:04,319
still early enough they weren't

1423
00:58:08,069 --> 00:58:06,160
hibernating yet and we'd have to throw a

1424
00:58:09,349 --> 00:58:08,079
rock at them or something like get out

1425
00:58:11,270 --> 00:58:09,359
of here we gotta go wait for the bus

1426
00:58:13,990 --> 00:58:11,280
there's a hundred yards from the house

1427
00:58:16,069 --> 00:58:14,000
in between you and the house

1428
00:58:18,630 --> 00:58:16,079
yeah right right right right

1429
00:58:21,510 --> 00:58:18,640
and i can only imagine that this

1430
00:58:23,270 --> 00:58:21,520
especially at that age 15

1431
00:58:24,069 --> 00:58:23,280
um

1432
00:58:26,069 --> 00:58:24,079
you

1433
00:58:27,589 --> 00:58:26,079
does this become a hobby

1434
00:58:29,670 --> 00:58:27,599
you know we all have hobbies at the age

1435
00:58:33,109 --> 00:58:29,680
of 15 you dive into it for me it was

1436
00:58:34,829 --> 00:58:33,119
guitar you know 24 hours a day for years

1437
00:58:37,270 --> 00:58:34,839
is that what happened with you and

1438
00:58:38,710 --> 00:58:37,280
bigfoot no i was actually into guitar

1439
00:58:40,069 --> 00:58:38,720
too i was in all kinds of high school

1440
00:58:41,670 --> 00:58:40,079
bands and stuff played bass and

1441
00:58:43,190 --> 00:58:41,680
everything because hey as long as your

1442
00:58:44,230 --> 00:58:43,200
indoors playing you can't get mugged by

1443
00:58:45,910 --> 00:58:44,240
bigfoot

1444
00:58:47,349 --> 00:58:45,920
so that was

1445
00:58:48,630 --> 00:58:47,359
and northern minnesota you got a lot of

1446
00:58:49,990 --> 00:58:48,640
winter and you know unless you want to

1447
00:58:51,829 --> 00:58:50,000
be out there freezing a lot there's not

1448
00:58:53,990 --> 00:58:51,839
a whole lot of fun running around the

1449
00:58:55,670 --> 00:58:54,000
mountains time you know or the hills

1450
00:58:58,150 --> 00:58:55,680
um but

1451
00:59:00,710 --> 00:58:58,160
i was i was from that point on i i felt

1452
00:59:02,390 --> 00:59:00,720
like it was necessary to maintain my

1453
00:59:03,270 --> 00:59:02,400
life and not be killed by something

1454
00:59:04,789 --> 00:59:03,280
weird

1455
00:59:06,549 --> 00:59:04,799
to try and get more information on these

1456
00:59:09,109 --> 00:59:06,559
things trying to figure out what it was

1457
00:59:10,549 --> 00:59:09,119
and the local

1458
00:59:11,910 --> 00:59:10,559
i didn't find out until years later that

1459
00:59:13,589 --> 00:59:11,920
the natives up there know quite a bit a

1460
00:59:14,710 --> 00:59:13,599
lot about it but they don't tell anybody

1461
00:59:16,309 --> 00:59:14,720
anything

1462
00:59:18,150 --> 00:59:16,319
so that was no help i didn't know where

1463
00:59:20,950 --> 00:59:18,160
to go for any information on local stuff

1464
00:59:23,349 --> 00:59:20,960
and in the 70s other than the report of

1465
00:59:25,109 --> 00:59:23,359
the minnesota ice man there was no

1466
00:59:27,030 --> 00:59:25,119
thought whatsoever that there could be

1467
00:59:28,630 --> 00:59:27,040
such a thing in minnesota you know all

1468
00:59:30,789 --> 00:59:28,640
the locals are just like no they don't

1469
00:59:33,109 --> 00:59:30,799
believe it the natives knew it but none

1470
00:59:35,349 --> 00:59:33,119
of the local people other than that what

1471
00:59:38,069 --> 00:59:35,359
do you find uh i've only got about 30

1472
00:59:39,270 --> 00:59:38,079
seconds and we got to take a break um

1473
00:59:41,670 --> 00:59:39,280
is

1474
00:59:44,470 --> 00:59:41,680
just speaking about north america and

1475
00:59:47,349 --> 00:59:44,480
the united states

1476
00:59:50,069 --> 00:59:47,359
is it national or are is there more

1477
00:59:55,270 --> 00:59:50,079
sightings up in the pacific northwest

1478
00:59:59,829 --> 00:59:58,150
uh it varies a lot by terrain the plane

1479
01:00:01,750 --> 00:59:59,839
states tend to get less because there's

1480
01:00:03,750 --> 01:00:01,760
less cover and less food for them right

1481
01:00:05,030 --> 01:00:03,760
than when there used to be buffalo grass

1482
01:00:06,710 --> 01:00:05,040
eight feet tall there i bet there was a

1483
01:00:09,829 --> 01:00:06,720
lot more of them there then

1484
01:00:10,870 --> 01:00:09,839
um but it is um it is regional there's

1485
01:00:12,390 --> 01:00:10,880
some

1486
01:00:13,829 --> 01:00:12,400
you'd actually be surprised like that i

1487
01:00:15,750 --> 01:00:13,839
could give you a better answer on that

1488
01:00:17,349 --> 01:00:15,760
one after we come back but in general

1489
01:00:18,870 --> 01:00:17,359
they're all over the continent the only

1490
01:00:20,309 --> 01:00:18,880
place that there hasn't been a reliable

1491
01:00:23,829 --> 01:00:20,319
report

1492
01:00:25,349 --> 01:00:23,839
in the 50 states of the us is hawaii

1493
01:00:26,789 --> 01:00:25,359
where they do have menehune the little

1494
01:00:29,190 --> 01:00:26,799
people reports but they don't really

1495
01:00:31,190 --> 01:00:29,200
have anything good as far as a bigfoot

1496
01:00:32,710 --> 01:00:31,200
report at this point let's take our

1497
01:00:35,109 --> 01:00:32,720
break right here our guest tonight the

1498
01:00:38,630 --> 01:00:35,119
one and only duke sullivan of world

1499
01:00:41,109 --> 01:00:38,640
bigfoot radio tonight it's all big feet

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all squatching all night long i'm heroes

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jimmy church

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01:06:25,029 --> 01:06:22,870
welcome back fade to black i am your

1607
01:06:27,589 --> 01:06:25,039
host jimmy church tonight duke sullivan

1608
01:06:30,470 --> 01:06:27,599
is joining us from world bigfoot radio

1609
01:06:32,150 --> 01:06:30,480
tomorrow night james fox is here

1610
01:06:34,549 --> 01:06:32,160
thursday night it's fader night open

1611
01:06:36,470 --> 01:06:34,559
lines but not just any fader night ron

1612
01:06:39,109 --> 01:06:36,480
keel is here

1613
01:06:41,190 --> 01:06:39,119
ron keel that's right the heavy metal

1614
01:06:41,910 --> 01:06:41,200
cowboys gonna be manning the phones with

1615
01:06:44,150 --> 01:06:41,920
me

1616
01:06:46,789 --> 01:06:44,160
taking your phone calls all night long

1617
01:06:48,710 --> 01:06:46,799
tonight it's duke sullivan and uh hey

1618
01:06:49,829 --> 01:06:48,720
duke you big heavy are you a heavy metal

1619
01:06:50,789 --> 01:06:49,839
guy

1620
01:06:52,150 --> 01:06:50,799
oh

1621
01:06:54,470 --> 01:06:52,160
yes

1622
01:06:56,309 --> 01:06:54,480
i just recorded a metal band here on

1623
01:06:59,510 --> 01:06:56,319
sunday that i posted on my channel on

1624
01:07:02,230 --> 01:06:59,520
monday ah so then uh you're you must be

1625
01:07:04,789 --> 01:07:02,240
a fan of keel and steeler and ink vayne

1626
01:07:06,950 --> 01:07:04,799
malmsteen oh yeah i'm i'm old fart

1627
01:07:09,829 --> 01:07:06,960
old-school thrash metal from the era of

1628
01:07:11,349 --> 01:07:09,839
uh voivod metallica slayer megadeth

1629
01:07:14,390 --> 01:07:11,359
those guys i got to interview all of

1630
01:07:16,950 --> 01:07:14,400
them i i toured with voivod right on

1631
01:07:19,910 --> 01:07:16,960
love those guys i toured with voivod man

1632
01:07:22,470 --> 01:07:19,920
i was out uh i did

1633
01:07:24,789 --> 01:07:22,480
uh i don't want to get too sideways off

1634
01:07:27,510 --> 01:07:24,799
of the show tonight but i did about i

1635
01:07:30,470 --> 01:07:27,520
think maybe six months on the road with

1636
01:07:33,670 --> 01:07:30,480
voivod piggy and the boy man

1637
01:07:35,270 --> 01:07:33,680
and uh that's a good band they are i i

1638
01:07:36,390 --> 01:07:35,280
would say

1639
01:07:40,470 --> 01:07:36,400
they're like

1640
01:07:43,829 --> 01:07:40,480
metal

1641
01:07:45,589 --> 01:07:43,839
yes

1642
01:07:47,270 --> 01:07:45,599
what was it the uh

1643
01:07:48,870 --> 01:07:47,280
oh geez i can't even remember the name

1644
01:07:51,510 --> 01:07:48,880
of the festival itself but they had like

1645
01:07:54,150 --> 01:07:51,520
them the possessed nasty savage and a

1646
01:07:55,430 --> 01:07:54,160
couple other really just brutal bands

1647
01:07:57,589 --> 01:07:55,440
and they were headlining it i think it

1648
01:07:59,430 --> 01:07:57,599
was world war iii music fest

1649
01:08:01,829 --> 01:07:59,440
and uh yeah i got to i was actually

1650
01:08:03,190 --> 01:08:01,839
working for different uh magazines doing

1651
01:08:05,190 --> 01:08:03,200
interviews with bands at the time so i

1652
01:08:07,029 --> 01:08:05,200
got to interview them multiple times and

1653
01:08:08,630 --> 01:08:07,039
quick anecdote about

1654
01:08:10,630 --> 01:08:08,640
the third time i saw them they were

1655
01:08:12,870 --> 01:08:10,640
playing a place called norma jeans which

1656
01:08:14,950 --> 01:08:12,880
is named after marilyn monroe

1657
01:08:16,870 --> 01:08:14,960
and there was a whole bunch of people

1658
01:08:19,189 --> 01:08:16,880
there that were really big boy vod fans

1659
01:08:20,630 --> 01:08:19,199
and of course they were in their u-haul

1660
01:08:22,229 --> 01:08:20,640
touring bus that they were hauling

1661
01:08:24,309 --> 01:08:22,239
everything around in

1662
01:08:27,430 --> 01:08:24,319
and i had showed up with a friend that

1663
01:08:29,590 --> 01:08:27,440
had credits at a limo company so he

1664
01:08:31,430 --> 01:08:29,600
rented a limo to bring us there and it

1665
01:08:33,749 --> 01:08:31,440
had tinted windows on it

1666
01:08:35,990 --> 01:08:33,759
so after i got done interviewing snake

1667
01:08:37,269 --> 01:08:36,000
and uh piggy they were like hey we need

1668
01:08:39,749 --> 01:08:37,279
to load our equipment out and not get

1669
01:08:41,110 --> 01:08:39,759
mobbed can you do you know anybody who's

1670
01:08:43,510 --> 01:08:41,120
got that limo and i said oh that's me

1671
01:08:44,870 --> 01:08:43,520
and my friends and i'm like

1672
01:08:46,470 --> 01:08:44,880
do you need help do you need cover and

1673
01:08:48,229 --> 01:08:46,480
he's like yeah can you pull it around

1674
01:08:49,910 --> 01:08:48,239
front and just sit there and make

1675
01:08:51,829 --> 01:08:49,920
everybody think we're in there for a few

1676
01:08:53,749 --> 01:08:51,839
minutes until we get loaded out like

1677
01:08:55,669 --> 01:08:53,759
yeah no problem man

1678
01:08:57,030 --> 01:08:55,679
so yeah we pretended we were very well

1679
01:08:58,630 --> 01:08:57,040
they couldn't see in the tinted windows

1680
01:09:00,390 --> 01:08:58,640
we pulled up front for about 20 minutes

1681
01:09:02,470 --> 01:09:00,400
until they got everything loaded we saw

1682
01:09:04,149 --> 01:09:02,480
the u-haul pulling out and we went okay

1683
01:09:06,870 --> 01:09:04,159
and gave them a high i saw you know

1684
01:09:09,030 --> 01:09:06,880
stuck our arm out the window thumbs up

1685
01:09:11,749 --> 01:09:09,040
i'll say the one thing

1686
01:09:13,669 --> 01:09:11,759
and snake one of the funniest dudes i

1687
01:09:15,749 --> 01:09:13,679
have ever piggy to

1688
01:09:18,070 --> 01:09:15,759
uh that i've ever been around and the

1689
01:09:21,669 --> 01:09:18,080
stuff that we did on that bus uh it was

1690
01:09:23,749 --> 01:09:21,679
just so much fun anyway snake and

1691
01:09:24,950 --> 01:09:23,759
piggy his guitar

1692
01:09:32,229 --> 01:09:24,960
they

1693
01:09:35,349 --> 01:09:32,239
i don't i can't i can't put it into

1694
01:09:36,550 --> 01:09:35,359
words you know it's intricate music very

1695
01:09:37,349 --> 01:09:36,560
intricate

1696
01:09:40,470 --> 01:09:37,359
but

1697
01:09:43,110 --> 01:09:40,480
absolutely a polished sound

1698
01:09:45,590 --> 01:09:43,120
they were just uh an amazing band like i

1699
01:09:47,669 --> 01:09:45,600
said i i probably saw them a hundred

1700
01:09:49,510 --> 01:09:47,679
times and the proof is in the pudding

1701
01:09:51,349 --> 01:09:49,520
live and those guys were super tight

1702
01:09:52,870 --> 01:09:51,359
live that's what i'm saying flawlessly

1703
01:09:54,790 --> 01:09:52,880
tight and the other thing is they were

1704
01:09:57,110 --> 01:09:54,800
total hands-on their drummer away was

1705
01:09:59,110 --> 01:09:57,120
doing all their cover artwork piggy was

1706
01:10:02,070 --> 01:09:59,120
actually making their guitars and bases

1707
01:10:05,590 --> 01:10:02,080
for them yep yep yep yep yep yep uh all

1708
01:10:07,910 --> 01:10:05,600
of that stuff uh his his pedal board and

1709
01:10:09,030 --> 01:10:07,920
and how he wired he did everything

1710
01:10:12,149 --> 01:10:09,040
himself

1711
01:10:14,870 --> 01:10:12,159
and uh and and could smoke weed like

1712
01:10:19,110 --> 01:10:14,880
nobody i i've ever experienced

1713
01:10:21,189 --> 01:10:19,120
okay so uh moving on um let me let me

1714
01:10:23,669 --> 01:10:21,199
uh let me

1715
01:10:25,270 --> 01:10:23,679
let me tell you a little story about

1716
01:10:29,189 --> 01:10:25,280
duke sullivan

1717
01:10:32,149 --> 01:10:29,199
i'm having uh a dinner party over over

1718
01:10:35,189 --> 01:10:32,159
at my house and i've got about maybe 10

1719
01:10:37,270 --> 01:10:35,199
or 15 people there and we're cooking and

1720
01:10:40,149 --> 01:10:37,280
you know big party all night

1721
01:10:42,229 --> 01:10:40,159
and we're out on the back patio

1722
01:10:44,950 --> 01:10:42,239
and then

1723
01:10:45,910 --> 01:10:44,960
somebody says

1724
01:10:48,229 --> 01:10:45,920
um

1725
01:10:50,070 --> 01:10:48,239
man have you guys been listening to duke

1726
01:10:52,550 --> 01:10:50,080
sullivan lately

1727
01:10:55,669 --> 01:10:52,560
and i don't know what's going on right

1728
01:10:57,910 --> 01:10:55,679
this is my introduction to uncle duke

1729
01:11:00,470 --> 01:10:57,920
and and then

1730
01:11:01,590 --> 01:11:00,480
another person at the table and i like

1731
01:11:03,510 --> 01:11:01,600
to think i know everything another

1732
01:11:06,470 --> 01:11:03,520
person says yeah

1733
01:11:08,550 --> 01:11:06,480
man the glog you know part three

1734
01:11:10,310 --> 01:11:08,560
whatever right and and then somebody

1735
01:11:12,870 --> 01:11:10,320
else says yeah

1736
01:11:15,110 --> 01:11:12,880
and and that part about kevin and and

1737
01:11:16,950 --> 01:11:15,120
then somebody else says yeah i caught

1738
01:11:17,910 --> 01:11:16,960
that too and it kind of went around the

1739
01:11:21,270 --> 01:11:17,920
table

1740
01:11:22,550 --> 01:11:21,280
and i'm like what is everybody talking

1741
01:11:23,390 --> 01:11:22,560
about here

1742
01:11:25,270 --> 01:11:23,400
and

1743
01:11:26,550 --> 01:11:25,280
emotionally

1744
01:11:28,149 --> 01:11:26,560
how

1745
01:11:30,709 --> 01:11:28,159
they were

1746
01:11:32,550 --> 01:11:30,719
exchanging their thoughts about

1747
01:11:36,229 --> 01:11:32,560
different parts of

1748
01:11:37,110 --> 01:11:36,239
of of this huge ginormous story

1749
01:11:41,110 --> 01:11:37,120
and

1750
01:11:42,390 --> 01:11:41,120
going on here

1751
01:11:45,270 --> 01:11:42,400
and they

1752
01:11:47,830 --> 01:11:45,280
slowly exposed me to

1753
01:11:50,550 --> 01:11:47,840
to this uh epic i think it's the right

1754
01:11:52,950 --> 01:11:50,560
word i mean it's a it's a big story it's

1755
01:11:55,830 --> 01:11:52,960
it's i call it a saga because it's you

1756
01:11:57,830 --> 01:11:55,840
know like icelandic legend size length i

1757
01:11:59,350 --> 01:11:57,840
think it's like total nine hours and

1758
01:12:01,669 --> 01:11:59,360
there's still one part of it that hasn't

1759
01:12:04,070 --> 01:12:01,679
come out yet where someone else has

1760
01:12:05,830 --> 01:12:04,080
encountered the very same sasquatch

1761
01:12:07,270 --> 01:12:05,840
and they're they are actually recovering

1762
01:12:09,669 --> 01:12:07,280
from surgery right now i'm planning on

1763
01:12:11,270 --> 01:12:09,679
having them on soon now all of the

1764
01:12:14,390 --> 01:12:11,280
elements

1765
01:12:16,310 --> 01:12:14,400
that uh i was exposed to

1766
01:12:17,350 --> 01:12:16,320
and i'll let you

1767
01:12:20,470 --> 01:12:17,360
uh

1768
01:12:21,910 --> 01:12:20,480
but

1769
01:12:24,070 --> 01:12:21,920
um you know it's it's about

1770
01:12:27,350 --> 01:12:24,080
relationships it's about language it's

1771
01:12:29,669 --> 01:12:27,360
about seasons it's a heroic journey

1772
01:12:31,750 --> 01:12:29,679
it's a friendship

1773
01:12:33,669 --> 01:12:31,760
it's uh

1774
01:12:35,830 --> 01:12:33,679
it's it's got all the elements right

1775
01:12:37,910 --> 01:12:35,840
it's like the iliad right it's like the

1776
01:12:41,669 --> 01:12:37,920
odyssey it's like homer

1777
01:12:44,950 --> 01:12:41,679
and uh i couldn't believe

1778
01:12:48,830 --> 01:12:44,960
what i was hearing uh about this story

1779
01:12:52,229 --> 01:12:48,840
and so let's let's kind of start at the

1780
01:12:54,870 --> 01:12:52,239
beginning and who was before we get to

1781
01:12:58,550 --> 01:12:54,880
glog who was kevin lang

1782
01:13:00,550 --> 01:12:58,560
kevin uh grew up over in idaho he was a

1783
01:13:02,950 --> 01:13:00,560
son of a pastor

1784
01:13:04,550 --> 01:13:02,960
and uh you know hellraiser when he was

1785
01:13:06,070 --> 01:13:04,560
in his teens and early 20s and then

1786
01:13:07,189 --> 01:13:06,080
settled down and became a really great

1787
01:13:09,270 --> 01:13:07,199
guy

1788
01:13:11,030 --> 01:13:09,280
um he's been vetted by so many people

1789
01:13:12,950 --> 01:13:11,040
that i know at this point it's you know

1790
01:13:14,550 --> 01:13:12,960
ridiculous there's a lot of the

1791
01:13:15,750 --> 01:13:14,560
researchers after he got involved with

1792
01:13:18,229 --> 01:13:15,760
the community

1793
01:13:19,750 --> 01:13:18,239
got to actually take him out uh to their

1794
01:13:21,430 --> 01:13:19,760
spots researching with them and stuff

1795
01:13:23,350 --> 01:13:21,440
and they'll they'll vote for him a

1796
01:13:25,030 --> 01:13:23,360
hundred percent

1797
01:13:27,110 --> 01:13:25,040
whenever he's around the activity picked

1798
01:13:29,750 --> 01:13:27,120
up a lot

1799
01:13:31,830 --> 01:13:29,760
yeah yeah because uh yeah you know who

1800
01:13:32,870 --> 01:13:31,840
knows who he is and they're like oh it's

1801
01:13:35,990 --> 01:13:32,880
kevin

1802
01:13:37,750 --> 01:13:36,000
um first of all he actually contacted me

1803
01:13:40,070 --> 01:13:37,760
he had been on sasquatch chronicles and

1804
01:13:41,669 --> 01:13:40,080
he was telling a story from when

1805
01:13:43,270 --> 01:13:41,679
uh he was about the same age as when i

1806
01:13:46,070 --> 01:13:43,280
had my second set i think he was about

1807
01:13:47,910 --> 01:13:46,080
15 years old and he was out elk hunting

1808
01:13:48,709 --> 01:13:47,920
with his dad and his brother and his dad

1809
01:13:50,550 --> 01:13:48,719
would

1810
01:13:51,990 --> 01:13:50,560
was driving him up this canyon and was

1811
01:13:53,750 --> 01:13:52,000
dropping him up i think he said about

1812
01:13:55,270 --> 01:13:53,760
every quarter mile

1813
01:13:57,030 --> 01:13:55,280
and then they would walk up the hillside

1814
01:13:58,149 --> 01:13:57,040
find a convenient good spot and sit

1815
01:13:59,430 --> 01:13:58,159
there and wait for the elk to start

1816
01:14:01,669 --> 01:13:59,440
moving around

1817
01:14:03,910 --> 01:14:01,679
and while kevin was up there

1818
01:14:05,430 --> 01:14:03,920
sure enough here comes he can hear the

1819
01:14:07,669 --> 01:14:05,440
sound of something running up the ridge

1820
01:14:09,350 --> 01:14:07,679
line toward him and he's sitting on a as

1821
01:14:11,910 --> 01:14:09,360
i recall it was a big rock with a tree

1822
01:14:13,189 --> 01:14:11,920
behind his back and he's watching the

1823
01:14:15,350 --> 01:14:13,199
ridge line

1824
01:14:17,910 --> 01:14:15,360
but he can't see the drop-off and below

1825
01:14:19,590 --> 01:14:17,920
it so he's just waiting for something to

1826
01:14:20,950 --> 01:14:19,600
either come past him and go down it or

1827
01:14:22,790 --> 01:14:20,960
come up it in his direction there's a

1828
01:14:24,310 --> 01:14:22,800
game trail there well here's all this

1829
01:14:26,390 --> 01:14:24,320
racket there's something really big

1830
01:14:28,630 --> 01:14:26,400
coming up toward them and here comes

1831
01:14:29,590 --> 01:14:28,640
this elk full size huge you know bull

1832
01:14:32,310 --> 01:14:29,600
elk

1833
01:14:34,229 --> 01:14:32,320
winded uh lathered

1834
01:14:36,470 --> 01:14:34,239
spit spit coming out

1835
01:14:38,550 --> 01:14:36,480
and he sees kevin and runs right toward

1836
01:14:40,470 --> 01:14:38,560
and past him which startled kevin

1837
01:14:42,310 --> 01:14:40,480
because like hey i got a gun i'm a

1838
01:14:44,390 --> 01:14:42,320
hunter you're running toward me what's

1839
01:14:46,630 --> 01:14:44,400
going on and then he realizes he's still

1840
01:14:48,550 --> 01:14:46,640
hearing this loud noise coming up

1841
01:14:49,910 --> 01:14:48,560
behind this elk and it sounds like way

1842
01:14:51,430 --> 01:14:49,920
bigger than the elk

1843
01:14:53,590 --> 01:14:51,440
and it finally comes up over the rise

1844
01:14:55,510 --> 01:14:53,600
and he said it didn't get past its waist

1845
01:14:57,270 --> 01:14:55,520
it spotted me right away

1846
01:14:59,189 --> 01:14:57,280
so i'd have to guesstimate it at about

1847
01:15:00,709 --> 01:14:59,199
10 feet tall but i'm not sure because i

1848
01:15:02,070 --> 01:15:00,719
could only see him from the waist up

1849
01:15:04,390 --> 01:15:02,080
that's all that came up over the rise

1850
01:15:06,870 --> 01:15:04,400
before he noticed me he had a boulder in

1851
01:15:09,030 --> 01:15:06,880
his hand about the size of a pumpkin

1852
01:15:10,390 --> 01:15:09,040
and when he saw kevin he gave this

1853
01:15:12,070 --> 01:15:10,400
mighty roar

1854
01:15:14,229 --> 01:15:12,080
apparently of disgruntlement stupid

1855
01:15:15,990 --> 01:15:14,239
human you ruined my elk hunt

1856
01:15:17,990 --> 01:15:16,000
and he flicked the boulder away with his

1857
01:15:20,070 --> 01:15:18,000
fingers and kevin said it flew like 60

1858
01:15:22,229 --> 01:15:20,080
70 feet hit another big rock and

1859
01:15:23,590 --> 01:15:22,239
shattered and it was just effortless he

1860
01:15:25,590 --> 01:15:23,600
like flicked it away with his fingers

1861
01:15:26,950 --> 01:15:25,600
this thing was the size of a pumpkin and

1862
01:15:28,790 --> 01:15:26,960
then it glared at him and it turned

1863
01:15:30,390 --> 01:15:28,800
around and went back down

1864
01:15:32,070 --> 01:15:30,400
the hillside

1865
01:15:35,110 --> 01:15:32,080
well he was pretty much ready to be done

1866
01:15:37,270 --> 01:15:35,120
elk hunting at that point so

1867
01:15:38,790 --> 01:15:37,280
his uh dad came down shortly after that

1868
01:15:40,310 --> 01:15:38,800
to pick him up anyway and what was what

1869
01:15:43,110 --> 01:15:40,320
was that noise down here and he goes uh

1870
01:15:44,709 --> 01:15:43,120
i don't know maybe it was an elk or a

1871
01:15:46,470 --> 01:15:44,719
moose or something i heard it too and

1872
01:15:47,830 --> 01:15:46,480
his brother was like well yeah it came

1873
01:15:49,110 --> 01:15:47,840
from your direction you must hurt it

1874
01:15:50,310 --> 01:15:49,120
better than us and

1875
01:15:52,149 --> 01:15:50,320
you know kevin's like i'm not going to

1876
01:15:54,149 --> 01:15:52,159
tell anybody what i just saw nobody

1877
01:15:55,430 --> 01:15:54,159
believed me and also he just played up

1878
01:15:56,470 --> 01:15:55,440
well i don't know what it was uh you

1879
01:15:58,070 --> 01:15:56,480
know

1880
01:16:00,229 --> 01:15:58,080
that was it for him

1881
01:16:02,229 --> 01:16:00,239
so after he had told this story on

1882
01:16:04,790 --> 01:16:02,239
sasquatch chronicles he contacted me and

1883
01:16:07,110 --> 01:16:04,800
he said duke i want to tell you about

1884
01:16:08,950 --> 01:16:07,120
something really big that happened to me

1885
01:16:10,229 --> 01:16:08,960
and he told me this story about glag and

1886
01:16:12,550 --> 01:16:10,239
i said why didn't you tell this on

1887
01:16:15,830 --> 01:16:12,560
sasquatch chronicles and he said because

1888
01:16:18,950 --> 01:16:17,750
and even if he did i don't know if he'd

1889
01:16:21,270 --> 01:16:18,960
do

1890
01:16:23,270 --> 01:16:21,280
this story because it's so long

1891
01:16:25,189 --> 01:16:23,280
and yeah he was right it was long there

1892
01:16:26,790 --> 01:16:25,199
was a whole bunch of long parts to put

1893
01:16:29,030 --> 01:16:26,800
all of it together he actually spent

1894
01:16:31,110 --> 01:16:29,040
five years with his other sasquatch as

1895
01:16:32,709 --> 01:16:31,120
his like childhood friend

1896
01:16:35,830 --> 01:16:32,719
and

1897
01:16:37,990 --> 01:16:35,840
as far as vetting somebody with a crazy

1898
01:16:39,750 --> 01:16:38,000
story like this goes after he put the

1899
01:16:41,910 --> 01:16:39,760
whole thing out on my channel he started

1900
01:16:43,669 --> 01:16:41,920
his own youtube channel and he did a

1901
01:16:47,110 --> 01:16:43,679
chat every weekend

1902
01:16:49,030 --> 01:16:47,120
for 52 weekends an entire year where

1903
01:16:51,189 --> 01:16:49,040
anybody could come on ask him any

1904
01:16:53,270 --> 01:16:51,199
question about the saga and he would

1905
01:16:55,270 --> 01:16:53,280
answer their questions

1906
01:16:57,430 --> 01:16:55,280
and nothing he said ever contradicted

1907
01:16:59,750 --> 01:16:57,440
anything he said on my show there is no

1908
01:17:02,310 --> 01:16:59,760
physical way anybody could remember

1909
01:17:04,149 --> 01:17:02,320
that much detail unless it actually

1910
01:17:06,470 --> 01:17:04,159
happened and the other thing is if

1911
01:17:08,630 --> 01:17:06,480
you've heard him telling this story

1912
01:17:10,870 --> 01:17:08,640
you know even really tough and hardened

1913
01:17:13,350 --> 01:17:10,880
he men cry during parts of it

1914
01:17:15,590 --> 01:17:13,360
it's you know either this guy is the

1915
01:17:17,590 --> 01:17:15,600
greatest story writer that hollywood

1916
01:17:19,830 --> 01:17:17,600
never found out about and one of the

1917
01:17:22,070 --> 01:17:19,840
greatest actors they never heard about

1918
01:17:23,350 --> 01:17:22,080
or he's legit and i've been out in the

1919
01:17:25,030 --> 01:17:23,360
field with him

1920
01:17:28,390 --> 01:17:25,040
and so as a bunch of other my friends

1921
01:17:29,430 --> 01:17:28,400
he's legit this really happened

1922
01:17:32,310 --> 01:17:29,440
he

1923
01:17:33,990 --> 01:17:32,320
sounded

1924
01:17:36,310 --> 01:17:34,000
like

1925
01:17:38,550 --> 01:17:36,320
a very honest happy

1926
01:17:39,510 --> 01:17:38,560
fresh smart

1927
01:17:41,350 --> 01:17:39,520
man

1928
01:17:42,950 --> 01:17:41,360
i mean to me i that's

1929
01:17:45,669 --> 01:17:42,960
that's that's the way he always came

1930
01:17:47,110 --> 01:17:45,679
across well he comes across the people

1931
01:17:49,270 --> 01:17:47,120
that actually got to meet him it was

1932
01:17:50,870 --> 01:17:49,280
even you know like well he's my best

1933
01:17:52,950 --> 01:17:50,880
friend this is like one of the coolest

1934
01:17:55,030 --> 01:17:52,960
guys i've ever met in my life he never

1935
01:17:56,310 --> 01:17:55,040
wants to hurt anybody's feelings you

1936
01:17:58,550 --> 01:17:56,320
know it was really hard to get him to

1937
01:18:00,709 --> 01:17:58,560
actually say a swear word

1938
01:18:02,070 --> 01:18:00,719
he had to be super mad to say a swear

1939
01:18:03,430 --> 01:18:02,080
word he

1940
01:18:04,870 --> 01:18:03,440
you know he couldn't get him to say

1941
01:18:06,950 --> 01:18:04,880
anything bad about anybody just didn't

1942
01:18:08,550 --> 01:18:06,960
want to talk about it now we're talking

1943
01:18:09,990 --> 01:18:08,560
about him in the past tense uh what

1944
01:18:11,350 --> 01:18:10,000
happened to kevin

1945
01:18:14,790 --> 01:18:11,360
uh

1946
01:18:16,630 --> 01:18:14,800
because it's going to cause problems for

1947
01:18:19,669 --> 01:18:16,640
both of us but we have strong suspicions

1948
01:18:20,950 --> 01:18:19,679
it wasn't natural and he died may 4th uh

1949
01:18:24,229 --> 01:18:20,960
2020

1950
01:18:24,950 --> 01:18:24,239
right right um

1951
01:18:26,390 --> 01:18:24,960
and

1952
01:18:29,750 --> 01:18:26,400
that's why for me

1953
01:18:31,590 --> 01:18:29,760
uh going back and listening uh to

1954
01:18:33,350 --> 01:18:31,600
to him speak

1955
01:18:36,149 --> 01:18:33,360
it's it's it's pretty strange it's

1956
01:18:39,750 --> 01:18:36,159
pretty strange um but but again

1957
01:18:42,470 --> 01:18:39,760
very happy very smart very grounded uh

1958
01:18:45,030 --> 01:18:42,480
person and uh there's a lot of kevin

1959
01:18:47,910 --> 01:18:45,040
lang to go out there and listen to

1960
01:18:52,709 --> 01:18:47,920
so okay so he brings

1961
01:18:54,630 --> 01:18:52,719
he brings the glogg saga uh to you

1962
01:18:56,310 --> 01:18:54,640
as an overview

1963
01:18:58,149 --> 01:18:56,320
because i i really want to start from

1964
01:18:59,590 --> 01:18:58,159
the beginning uh there we don't have

1965
01:19:01,990 --> 01:18:59,600
enough time to even

1966
01:19:02,950 --> 01:19:02,000
get a taste of this into the show

1967
01:19:04,630 --> 01:19:02,960
tonight

1968
01:19:07,110 --> 01:19:04,640
but there are

1969
01:19:08,510 --> 01:19:07,120
some pretty dramatic moments in this

1970
01:19:10,229 --> 01:19:08,520
that are just

1971
01:19:13,270 --> 01:19:10,239
unbelievably

1972
01:19:14,310 --> 01:19:13,280
uh cool and crazy at the same time

1973
01:19:15,270 --> 01:19:14,320
um

1974
01:19:18,070 --> 01:19:15,280
so

1975
01:19:21,350 --> 01:19:18,080
if you were going to describe

1976
01:19:23,110 --> 01:19:21,360
what the this this saga is how how would

1977
01:19:24,550 --> 01:19:23,120
you frame it

1978
01:19:26,070 --> 01:19:24,560
um

1979
01:19:28,390 --> 01:19:26,080
for those of us that are older farts you

1980
01:19:29,590 --> 01:19:28,400
might remember the movie born free

1981
01:19:32,310 --> 01:19:29,600
lion cub

1982
01:19:33,830 --> 01:19:32,320
lost its family humans take care of it

1983
01:19:36,470 --> 01:19:33,840
try and train it to go back in the wild

1984
01:19:38,390 --> 01:19:36,480
by itself release it again it's like

1985
01:19:40,149 --> 01:19:38,400
that except for the lion cub is actually

1986
01:19:41,590 --> 01:19:40,159
intelligent can talk to you and has a

1987
01:19:43,669 --> 01:19:41,600
personality

1988
01:19:45,510 --> 01:19:43,679
and it's a sasquatch

1989
01:19:46,950 --> 01:19:45,520
and and and

1990
01:19:49,669 --> 01:19:46,960
in the beginning

1991
01:19:50,950 --> 01:19:49,679
um how did how did kevin first meet

1992
01:19:53,350 --> 01:19:50,960
glogg

1993
01:19:54,149 --> 01:19:53,360
well he met glad when he was i keep

1994
01:19:55,270 --> 01:19:54,159
saying

1995
01:19:57,189 --> 01:19:55,280
it's black

1996
01:19:58,709 --> 01:19:57,199
yeah kevin had to correct me a few times

1997
01:20:00,470 --> 01:19:58,719
too he said no glad yell to me when i

1998
01:20:02,149 --> 01:20:00,480
mispronounced it too so everybody gets

1999
01:20:05,189 --> 01:20:02,159
it uh

2000
01:20:08,070 --> 01:20:06,550
yeah that's how kevin spelled it but he

2001
01:20:09,590 --> 01:20:08,080
said yeah it's glad

2002
01:20:12,390 --> 01:20:09,600
he mispronounced it and glad said no

2003
01:20:13,750 --> 01:20:12,400
glug gleg

2004
01:20:15,910 --> 01:20:13,760
oh okay you're saying it's so fast

2005
01:20:16,870 --> 01:20:15,920
that's why i'm not understanding it and

2006
01:20:18,950 --> 01:20:16,880
that's another thing when they get

2007
01:20:20,870 --> 01:20:18,960
excited they talk fast

2008
01:20:22,550 --> 01:20:20,880
it's difficult to understand them so

2009
01:20:24,149 --> 01:20:22,560
anyway what happened with him is again

2010
01:20:28,070 --> 01:20:24,159
this was uh

2011
01:20:30,550 --> 01:20:28,080
i think the year after he had had

2012
01:20:32,950 --> 01:20:30,560
his elk encounter and he was out hunting

2013
01:20:35,030 --> 01:20:32,960
by himself for deer and he had made a

2014
01:20:36,709 --> 01:20:35,040
deer stand that was way up there and it

2015
01:20:39,430 --> 01:20:36,719
was big you could actually like camp in

2016
01:20:40,870 --> 01:20:39,440
it if you wanted to not legal

2017
01:20:42,149 --> 01:20:40,880
but uh

2018
01:20:43,510 --> 01:20:42,159
he put some spikes in the trees so he

2019
01:20:44,550 --> 01:20:43,520
could get up there was about 20 feet up

2020
01:20:46,629 --> 01:20:44,560
or more

2021
01:20:47,990 --> 01:20:46,639
and he bagged a deer and it was too late

2022
01:20:50,470 --> 01:20:48,000
at night to drag it down out of the

2023
01:20:52,149 --> 01:20:50,480
mountain so it made up his mind to just

2024
01:20:54,229 --> 01:20:52,159
stay there overnight and this was not

2025
01:20:55,350 --> 01:20:54,239
warm it was basically winter there was

2026
01:20:56,550 --> 01:20:55,360
snow on the ground and everything at

2027
01:20:59,189 --> 01:20:56,560
this point

2028
01:21:02,149 --> 01:20:59,199
and uh so he strung the deer up in a

2029
01:21:03,990 --> 01:21:02,159
tree with a piece of rope holding it up

2030
01:21:05,030 --> 01:21:04,000
and went off to sleep well in the middle

2031
01:21:07,030 --> 01:21:05,040
of the night he starts hearing this

2032
01:21:10,070 --> 01:21:07,040
noise and he wakes up and he can see

2033
01:21:12,550 --> 01:21:10,080
this figure down below his deer in the

2034
01:21:14,310 --> 01:21:12,560
moonlight or whatever light there was

2035
01:21:15,430 --> 01:21:14,320
starlight i can't remember exactly but

2036
01:21:17,590 --> 01:21:15,440
there was enough light that he could see

2037
01:21:19,830 --> 01:21:17,600
it with all the snow on the ground some

2038
01:21:21,110 --> 01:21:19,840
human-shaped figure was trying to grab

2039
01:21:22,790 --> 01:21:21,120
the deer i kept jumping up trying to

2040
01:21:24,310 --> 01:21:22,800
grab the deer

2041
01:21:26,070 --> 01:21:24,320
and it didn't register it to him that

2042
01:21:28,229 --> 01:21:26,080
that was really peculiar because a human

2043
01:21:30,550 --> 01:21:28,239
would know there's a rope holding it up

2044
01:21:32,709 --> 01:21:30,560
just go let the rope down

2045
01:21:33,910 --> 01:21:32,719
and you can get at the deer it's human

2046
01:21:34,870 --> 01:21:33,920
shape but it's jumping up trying to get

2047
01:21:37,350 --> 01:21:34,880
the deer

2048
01:21:39,030 --> 01:21:37,360
so you know he's still half asleep

2049
01:21:41,510 --> 01:21:39,040
he doesn't even put his boots on he's

2050
01:21:43,510 --> 01:21:41,520
got his you know long johns and his uh

2051
01:21:45,590 --> 01:21:43,520
thick insulated socks on he climbs stuck

2052
01:21:47,510 --> 01:21:45,600
quietly down the tree and pads through

2053
01:21:49,669 --> 01:21:47,520
the snow toward it and goes what are you

2054
01:21:51,830 --> 01:21:49,679
trying to do with my deer

2055
01:21:52,790 --> 01:21:51,840
oh wouldn't any realize that's not a

2056
01:21:54,709 --> 01:21:52,800
human

2057
01:21:57,030 --> 01:21:54,719
and this looks like that other thing

2058
01:21:59,030 --> 01:21:57,040
that i saw last year only a lot smaller

2059
01:22:00,550 --> 01:21:59,040
and i'm getting back up in my deerstand

2060
01:22:02,149 --> 01:22:00,560
he turned around and hightailed it back

2061
01:22:03,510 --> 01:22:02,159
to his deer stand

2062
01:22:06,229 --> 01:22:03,520
well there was this whole cat and mouse

2063
01:22:07,270 --> 01:22:06,239
thing that went on over the next day

2064
01:22:09,750 --> 01:22:07,280
where it

2065
01:22:12,390 --> 01:22:09,760
stayed nearby and he realized that it

2066
01:22:14,149 --> 01:22:12,400
was probably needing food

2067
01:22:15,669 --> 01:22:14,159
and why did weren't there adults around

2068
01:22:17,270 --> 01:22:15,679
taking care of it

2069
01:22:19,030 --> 01:22:17,280
and there's a whole back story to this

2070
01:22:20,550 --> 01:22:19,040
that's again another long part of the

2071
01:22:22,790 --> 01:22:20,560
story where there had been reports

2072
01:22:25,750 --> 01:22:22,800
around town that some junk hunters had

2073
01:22:28,149 --> 01:22:25,760
actually killed a sasquatch family

2074
01:22:30,629 --> 01:22:28,159
and he reasoned this could be an orphan

2075
01:22:32,870 --> 01:22:30,639
that was left and that's why it was here

2076
01:22:34,550 --> 01:22:32,880
trying to get his deer kill in the

2077
01:22:35,990 --> 01:22:34,560
middle of the night there's no adults

2078
01:22:37,910 --> 01:22:36,000
around i could easily snap the string

2079
01:22:39,830 --> 01:22:37,920
and drop it because he's seen one of

2080
01:22:40,950 --> 01:22:39,840
those already he knew they could do that

2081
01:22:42,950 --> 01:22:40,960
easily

2082
01:22:44,629 --> 01:22:42,960
so he eventually uh took it down and

2083
01:22:45,990 --> 01:22:44,639
gave the uh

2084
01:22:47,510 --> 01:22:46,000
the creatures he perceived at a

2085
01:22:49,590 --> 01:22:47,520
hindquarter to eat

2086
01:22:51,189 --> 01:22:49,600
and then he stayed there dressing up the

2087
01:22:53,430 --> 01:22:51,199
deer for the rest of the day and that

2088
01:22:55,430 --> 01:22:53,440
night and he was cooking uh part of it

2089
01:22:56,950 --> 01:22:55,440
around the fire and actually enticed

2090
01:22:59,350 --> 01:22:56,960
glad to come into the fire and get some

2091
01:23:00,790 --> 01:22:59,360
food and then at that point glad decided

2092
01:23:02,790 --> 01:23:00,800
that you know hey you're okay you're

2093
01:23:05,110 --> 01:23:02,800
feeding me and try to shoot me or

2094
01:23:06,470 --> 01:23:05,120
anything be my friend you know poor

2095
01:23:08,470 --> 01:23:06,480
little orphan

2096
01:23:10,629 --> 01:23:08,480
he was about kevin's size he was around

2097
01:23:12,629 --> 01:23:10,639
six foot maybe a little bit taller

2098
01:23:13,830 --> 01:23:12,639
and from what we know about their growth

2099
01:23:15,990 --> 01:23:13,840
from all the people that have been

2100
01:23:17,510 --> 01:23:16,000
giving us reports and hey i got this one

2101
01:23:19,110 --> 01:23:17,520
in this area i've seen it from the time

2102
01:23:20,790 --> 01:23:19,120
it was little every year i see it here's

2103
01:23:22,870 --> 01:23:20,800
how much it grows here's up against

2104
01:23:25,110 --> 01:23:22,880
track is we can hazard a pretty good

2105
01:23:27,270 --> 01:23:25,120
guess that even though he was the size

2106
01:23:29,510 --> 01:23:27,280
of somebody who was in their later teens

2107
01:23:31,910 --> 01:23:29,520
and was already a pretty big kid that he

2108
01:23:33,270 --> 01:23:31,920
was probably basically barely a toddler

2109
01:23:35,270 --> 01:23:33,280
he was in the four or five-year-old

2110
01:23:38,149 --> 01:23:35,280
range at most

2111
01:23:39,590 --> 01:23:38,159
and uh

2112
01:23:43,669 --> 01:23:39,600
the

2113
01:23:45,270 --> 01:23:43,679
five-year-old you know let's just let's

2114
01:23:49,990 --> 01:23:45,280
just go right there

2115
01:23:52,310 --> 01:23:50,000
and and kevin's young too right so

2116
01:23:54,149 --> 01:23:52,320
kevin found out later greg was just not

2117
01:23:55,830 --> 01:23:54,159
big and strong enough to catch big game

2118
01:23:58,149 --> 01:23:55,840
he was keeping himself live eating

2119
01:24:00,629 --> 01:23:58,159
rabbits and gross and stuff like that

2120
01:24:02,310 --> 01:24:00,639
which is really not enough food for a

2121
01:24:03,830 --> 01:24:02,320
creature like that that grows that fast

2122
01:24:05,669 --> 01:24:03,840
they need tons of food and he's not big

2123
01:24:06,950 --> 01:24:05,679
enough to take down big game

2124
01:24:08,390 --> 01:24:06,960
so kevin helped him with that for a

2125
01:24:10,550 --> 01:24:08,400
while until he got big enough to do it

2126
01:24:12,790 --> 01:24:10,560
himself and how much time are we talking

2127
01:24:14,470 --> 01:24:12,800
about here i mean they just became like

2128
01:24:16,870 --> 01:24:14,480
fast friends right

2129
01:24:18,950 --> 01:24:16,880
yeah well it took you know several trips

2130
01:24:20,470 --> 01:24:18,960
out there for kevin to establish basic

2131
01:24:21,910 --> 01:24:20,480
communication with him because he didn't

2132
01:24:23,510 --> 01:24:21,920
speak in english

2133
01:24:25,990 --> 01:24:23,520
and kevin didn't understand anything

2134
01:24:28,070 --> 01:24:26,000
from his language that took a long time

2135
01:24:29,430 --> 01:24:28,080
he was drawing things in the dirt to

2136
01:24:30,709 --> 01:24:29,440
try and explain things to them or

2137
01:24:32,470 --> 01:24:30,719
showing them something picture of

2138
01:24:33,270 --> 01:24:32,480
something and tell them the name you

2139
01:24:35,350 --> 01:24:33,280
know

2140
01:24:36,229 --> 01:24:35,360
uh just interacting with them like kids

2141
01:24:38,790 --> 01:24:36,239
would do

2142
01:24:40,870 --> 01:24:38,800
bring a big rubber kickball out there

2143
01:24:42,229 --> 01:24:40,880
and kick the kickball around and so they

2144
01:24:43,910 --> 01:24:42,239
didn't generally last very long because

2145
01:24:45,430 --> 01:24:43,920
he'd crush it by accident or step on it

2146
01:24:47,750 --> 01:24:45,440
and it would blow up

2147
01:24:51,430 --> 01:24:47,760
this kind of thing actually went on uh

2148
01:24:53,990 --> 01:24:51,440
the drawing uh the playing toys things

2149
01:24:55,270 --> 01:24:54,000
like that right and yeah um yeah because

2150
01:24:57,430 --> 01:24:55,280
you've got to figure you got a 15 year

2151
01:24:58,870 --> 01:24:57,440
old human who's interacting with what is

2152
01:25:01,030 --> 01:24:58,880
essentially like the equivalent of a

2153
01:25:03,270 --> 01:25:01,040
four or five year old who's the same

2154
01:25:04,790 --> 01:25:03,280
size as them so that the little kid

2155
01:25:06,950 --> 01:25:04,800
wants interaction that wants to play

2156
01:25:08,790 --> 01:25:06,960
even more than the 15 year old does and

2157
01:25:11,030 --> 01:25:08,800
the 15 year old has nothing but older

2158
01:25:12,629 --> 01:25:11,040
brothers that are really mean to him and

2159
01:25:13,830 --> 01:25:12,639
he can't wait to leave home and go out

2160
01:25:14,790 --> 01:25:13,840
in the woods and play with his other

2161
01:25:17,030 --> 01:25:14,800
friend

2162
01:25:18,470 --> 01:25:17,040
so yeah they spent like five years as

2163
01:25:20,470 --> 01:25:18,480
much time as he could spend out there in

2164
01:25:22,470 --> 01:25:20,480
the woods with him he was out there now

2165
01:25:24,950 --> 01:25:22,480
where was uh at this point where was

2166
01:25:26,470 --> 01:25:24,960
glag living

2167
01:25:28,709 --> 01:25:26,480
that was something that it took kevin a

2168
01:25:30,149 --> 01:25:28,719
while to find out that he had found some

2169
01:25:31,750 --> 01:25:30,159
kind of a cave near there that he was

2170
01:25:32,790 --> 01:25:31,760
actually living in there even if you're

2171
01:25:33,830 --> 01:25:32,800
like friends of them they're gonna show

2172
01:25:35,270 --> 01:25:33,840
you

2173
01:25:37,189 --> 01:25:35,280
right that was something he found out

2174
01:25:39,110 --> 01:25:37,199
after they moved him again it was like

2175
01:25:41,270 --> 01:25:39,120
the very

2176
01:25:43,189 --> 01:25:41,280
uh i'm not sure if you ever did actually

2177
01:25:44,629 --> 01:25:43,199
see where he was staying glad had an

2178
01:25:46,470 --> 01:25:44,639
intermediate cave where that was their

2179
01:25:48,390 --> 01:25:46,480
meeting place where he would leave some

2180
01:25:50,950 --> 01:25:48,400
of the stuff he got from kevin and there

2181
01:25:52,229 --> 01:25:50,960
was like a little matting of pine boughs

2182
01:25:54,390 --> 01:25:52,239
and stuff in there that you could sleep

2183
01:25:56,070 --> 01:25:54,400
on if you wanted to but his actual place

2184
01:25:57,910 --> 01:25:56,080
where he was living was even further out

2185
01:26:00,310 --> 01:25:57,920
the middle of nowhere and i'm not sure

2186
01:26:01,510 --> 01:26:00,320
kevin even ever went there and they were

2187
01:26:03,030 --> 01:26:01,520
able to

2188
01:26:04,790 --> 01:26:03,040
communicate

2189
01:26:06,070 --> 01:26:04,800
yeah like i said that takes a lot of

2190
01:26:07,510 --> 01:26:06,080
effort and that's a big part of the

2191
01:26:09,350 --> 01:26:07,520
early parts of the story where kevin's

2192
01:26:11,110 --> 01:26:09,360
explaining how he did all this

2193
01:26:12,870 --> 01:26:11,120
and managed to get it across to him and

2194
01:26:14,229 --> 01:26:12,880
you know it's the willingness of this

2195
01:26:16,470 --> 01:26:14,239
smart little guy that doesn't have

2196
01:26:18,390 --> 01:26:16,480
anybody else to interact with and

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they're just as social as humans are you

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know if you're a five-year-old you're

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living out the mountains by yourself

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01:26:24,149 --> 01:26:22,239
you're super happy when your weird

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01:26:25,590 --> 01:26:24,159
looking hairless friend shows up and

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wants to spend time with you teaching

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you things and showing you cool things

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and divided attention and and what kind

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01:26:36,070 --> 01:26:33,120
of we're going to head to a break here

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01:26:39,830 --> 01:26:36,080
in about two minutes um what kind of uh

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01:26:41,430 --> 01:26:39,840
gifts was was kevin bringing glad

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01:26:42,790 --> 01:26:41,440
uh he brought him things that he thought

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01:26:44,709 --> 01:26:42,800
that he could use he was trying to

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figure out how to teach him how to make

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fire which actually he figured that out

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really fast but

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um

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01:26:52,310 --> 01:26:51,360
his hands were already too big to use a

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01:26:55,189 --> 01:26:52,320
lighter

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01:26:56,390 --> 01:26:55,199
anything so that was one of the things

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01:26:58,550 --> 01:26:56,400
when kevin showed up he always wanted

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01:27:00,390 --> 01:26:58,560
kevin to build a fire you know sometimes

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01:27:02,070 --> 01:27:00,400
kevin would have food with the cook but

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oftentimes especially after the first

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01:27:05,750 --> 01:27:03,440
year glad was catching everything he

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01:27:07,669 --> 01:27:05,760
wanted to eat himself and he just like

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01:27:09,430 --> 01:27:07,679
it tasted better when it was cooked so

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01:27:11,990 --> 01:27:09,440
fire fire fire fire as soon as kevin

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01:27:14,070 --> 01:27:12,000
showed up make a fire so you know so i

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01:27:15,510 --> 01:27:14,080
can cook some of this when i got here uh

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01:27:17,750 --> 01:27:15,520
kevin thought at one point that he might

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need a knife for skinning so in shop

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01:27:20,790 --> 01:27:19,199
class he made him a big old knife that

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01:27:22,629 --> 01:27:20,800
would fit his hand he could use for

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01:27:23,830 --> 01:27:22,639
skinning animals and stuff and he was

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01:27:25,590 --> 01:27:23,840
all proud and he brought it out there

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01:27:27,270 --> 01:27:25,600
and he was going to give it to glad and

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01:27:30,310 --> 01:27:27,280
glad had a deer that he had brought with

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01:27:31,750 --> 01:27:30,320
him and kevin started a fire and glad

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01:27:33,590 --> 01:27:31,760
ripped one of the front quarters off the

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01:27:34,709 --> 01:27:33,600
deer like we pulled the leg up cooked

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01:27:37,110 --> 01:27:34,719
chicken

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01:27:40,629 --> 01:27:37,120
and kevin just went he doesn't need this

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what an incredible story and so much

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more to go with this duke i want you to

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stay right there we need to take a break

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this is fade to black i'm your host

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jimmy church tonight duke sullivan of

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world bigfoot radio i'm your host jimmy

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church this is fade to black on the game

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welcome back fade to black i am your

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host jimmy church tonight duke sullivan

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duke sullivan is here of world bigfoot

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radio

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and uh more with duke in just a second

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off today

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today our guest today tonight uh duke

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01:32:56,950 --> 01:32:54,880
sullivan

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01:32:59,189 --> 01:32:56,960
and we are you know and this is the

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01:33:02,310 --> 01:32:59,199
thing um duke

2338
01:33:04,550 --> 01:33:02,320
when we talk about

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01:33:05,350 --> 01:33:04,560
you know bigfoot and sasquatch and yeti

2340
01:33:09,750 --> 01:33:05,360
and

2341
01:33:10,870 --> 01:33:09,760
for species that that are around the

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01:33:13,270 --> 01:33:10,880
world

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01:33:14,470 --> 01:33:13,280
um i think that we

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01:33:17,189 --> 01:33:14,480
don't

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01:33:20,470 --> 01:33:17,199
uh think about a complex

2346
01:33:23,830 --> 01:33:20,480
you know uh environment that they have a

2347
01:33:26,709 --> 01:33:23,840
uh they have their own way of living and

2348
01:33:29,110 --> 01:33:26,719
in communication and all of that

2349
01:33:30,550 --> 01:33:29,120
we think that they are just you know

2350
01:33:33,110 --> 01:33:30,560
like a bear

2351
01:33:37,350 --> 01:33:33,120
or or something else but they're they

2352
01:33:38,709 --> 01:33:37,360
have a a complex uh social system

2353
01:33:40,870 --> 01:33:38,719
very much so

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01:33:42,950 --> 01:33:40,880
um i'm actually the

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01:33:45,110 --> 01:33:42,960
montana representative of international

2356
01:33:48,550 --> 01:33:45,120
hominology of poorest people

2357
01:33:52,470 --> 01:33:48,560
and hominology is the science of

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01:33:56,790 --> 01:33:55,270
beings so this isn't an accepted science

2359
01:33:58,870 --> 01:33:56,800
in most countries the department of

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01:34:00,149 --> 01:33:58,880
hominology exists as a

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01:34:02,390 --> 01:34:00,159
division of the department of

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01:34:03,590 --> 01:34:02,400
evolutionary science in moscow russia of

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01:34:05,510 --> 01:34:03,600
all places

2364
01:34:07,750 --> 01:34:05,520
where they actually have let people do

2365
01:34:09,750 --> 01:34:07,760
research on this stuff but in uh some of

2366
01:34:11,990 --> 01:34:09,760
the countries it's not you know accepted

2367
01:34:14,070 --> 01:34:12,000
at all uh they won't even let people

2368
01:34:15,510 --> 01:34:14,080
look into it you know preposterous

2369
01:34:17,590 --> 01:34:15,520
there's no near humans still running

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01:34:19,350 --> 01:34:17,600
around the earth yeah well why we keep

2371
01:34:20,950 --> 01:34:19,360
getting them on video and finding tracks

2372
01:34:22,470 --> 01:34:20,960
all the time and getting audio

2373
01:34:24,070 --> 01:34:22,480
recordings of them and they are they're

2374
01:34:26,310 --> 01:34:24,080
apparently everywhere

2375
01:34:27,669 --> 01:34:26,320
and are they all the same thing well

2376
01:34:30,149 --> 01:34:27,679
maybe not

2377
01:34:31,830 --> 01:34:30,159
are they all probably relic hominids

2378
01:34:33,669 --> 01:34:31,840
well that's almost a certainty look at

2379
01:34:35,669 --> 01:34:33,679
some of the skeletons that we've got

2380
01:34:38,070 --> 01:34:35,679
that are well known to science we've got

2381
01:34:41,030 --> 01:34:38,080
uh homo neanderthal uh homo

2382
01:34:43,109 --> 01:34:41,040
heidelbergensis homodenosovan

2383
01:34:46,229 --> 01:34:43,119
and then you've got the little people uh

2384
01:34:48,070 --> 01:34:46,239
homoluzon and homo fereziensis

2385
01:34:49,270 --> 01:34:48,080
you know so like well there's no such

2386
01:34:51,830 --> 01:34:49,280
thing as little people hey we got their

2387
01:34:53,350 --> 01:34:51,840
skeletons yes there are there's two

2388
01:34:55,270 --> 01:34:53,360
different kinds that they've classified

2389
01:34:57,430 --> 01:34:55,280
now so for sure they were little people

2390
01:34:59,030 --> 01:34:57,440
are there still little people again

2391
01:35:01,189 --> 01:34:59,040
people keep spotting them and getting

2392
01:35:03,109 --> 01:35:01,199
pictures that look like there are

2393
01:35:04,709 --> 01:35:03,119
so it's not so easy to discount this

2394
01:35:07,030 --> 01:35:04,719
stuff especially in lieu of the fossil

2395
01:35:09,590 --> 01:35:07,040
record you know what is bigfoot well

2396
01:35:11,750 --> 01:35:09,600
nobody has been able to identify

2397
01:35:12,709 --> 01:35:11,760
what exactly their dna is although we

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01:35:14,870 --> 01:35:12,719
have it

2399
01:35:16,149 --> 01:35:14,880
it's actually listed in zoobank they've

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01:35:18,790 --> 01:35:16,159
done a

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01:35:21,109 --> 01:35:18,800
dna study of this the ketchum study was

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01:35:23,189 --> 01:35:21,119
done with over 100 samples and they all

2403
01:35:25,590 --> 01:35:23,199
came out the same thing

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01:35:27,669 --> 01:35:25,600
the mitochondrial dna

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01:35:29,590 --> 01:35:27,679
was the same as humans essentially

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01:35:30,470 --> 01:35:29,600
branching probably about 12 000 years

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01:35:32,870 --> 01:35:30,480
ago

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01:35:34,870 --> 01:35:32,880
and then the nuclear dna which is the

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01:35:36,390 --> 01:35:34,880
father's side is unclassified because

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01:35:37,990 --> 01:35:36,400
they don't have a match for it and

2411
01:35:39,350 --> 01:35:38,000
that's a problem with dna science unless

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01:35:41,430 --> 01:35:39,360
you've got a dead example and you pull

2413
01:35:43,350 --> 01:35:41,440
some dna and go what's this hey this

2414
01:35:44,950 --> 01:35:43,360
matches the other samples we've got you

2415
01:35:46,870 --> 01:35:44,960
don't have a baseline to know what

2416
01:35:48,870 --> 01:35:46,880
you're matching it against however

2417
01:35:50,709 --> 01:35:48,880
there's a lot of these dna samples that

2418
01:35:53,590 --> 01:35:50,719
do match with each other

2419
01:35:55,669 --> 01:35:53,600
so this whatever it is there's

2420
01:35:57,270 --> 01:35:55,679
more than one study that's gotten dna

2421
01:35:58,709 --> 01:35:57,280
from them

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01:36:00,550 --> 01:35:58,719
and they're all over the dang place you

2423
01:36:02,390 --> 01:36:00,560
know i was talking to

2424
01:36:03,990 --> 01:36:02,400
one of the other people from hominology

2425
01:36:06,149 --> 01:36:04,000
that was saying that

2426
01:36:09,189 --> 01:36:06,159
the team over there and i think it's the

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01:36:10,950 --> 01:36:09,199
caucus mountains where they had found

2428
01:36:14,709 --> 01:36:10,960
a very recent skeleton that appeared to

2429
01:36:16,229 --> 01:36:14,719
be a hybrid of denisovan and neanderthal

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01:36:18,229 --> 01:36:16,239
which is like the first of a kind you

2431
01:36:20,149 --> 01:36:18,239
know we've got these older phenotypes

2432
01:36:21,669 --> 01:36:20,159
but hey wait they're interbreeding with

2433
01:36:23,270 --> 01:36:21,679
each other well neanderthal was

2434
01:36:24,950 --> 01:36:23,280
interbreeding with humans a lot of

2435
01:36:27,270 --> 01:36:24,960
northern europeans still have that trace

2436
01:36:28,790 --> 01:36:27,280
bloodline for neanderthal in them too so

2437
01:36:30,709 --> 01:36:28,800
it's not that much of a surprise that

2438
01:36:32,310 --> 01:36:30,719
the other hominins would actually

2439
01:36:34,229 --> 01:36:32,320
interbreed with each other

2440
01:36:35,430 --> 01:36:34,239
but what surprised them is that this

2441
01:36:37,350 --> 01:36:35,440
thing's recent enough they could pull

2442
01:36:39,510 --> 01:36:37,360
dna out of it

2443
01:36:42,550 --> 01:36:39,520
so it hadn't been laying there that long

2444
01:36:44,550 --> 01:36:42,560
how many uh hold on

2445
01:36:45,750 --> 01:36:44,560
sorry about that okay had it hit the

2446
01:36:49,510 --> 01:36:45,760
cough button

2447
01:36:51,350 --> 01:36:49,520
how many chromosome pairs are in uh

2448
01:36:54,229 --> 01:36:51,360
bigfoot dna

2449
01:36:59,030 --> 01:36:54,239
um you know primates have 48 but homo

2450
01:37:00,550 --> 01:36:59,040
sapien has 46. what do you find in uh

2451
01:37:02,870 --> 01:37:00,560
bigfoot dna

2452
01:37:04,790 --> 01:37:02,880
the ketchup study as far as i can recall

2453
01:37:07,750 --> 01:37:04,800
says it's the same as humans basically

2454
01:37:10,149 --> 01:37:07,760
so it's 46 chromosome pairs in big blood

2455
01:37:12,070 --> 01:37:10,159
wow that's keep in mind all of the um

2456
01:37:14,950 --> 01:37:12,080
the relic hominids that were capable all

2457
01:37:17,109 --> 01:37:14,960
the homo uh you know all that we just

2458
01:37:19,990 --> 01:37:17,119
mentioned the homo neanderthal

2459
01:37:21,510 --> 01:37:20,000
homo denisov all those they're all from

2460
01:37:23,109 --> 01:37:21,520
the same family and they're capable of

2461
01:37:24,709 --> 01:37:23,119
interbreeding with each other so they're

2462
01:37:26,470 --> 01:37:24,719
going to be really really close

2463
01:37:28,390 --> 01:37:26,480
genetically well they would have if

2464
01:37:30,390 --> 01:37:28,400
there's interbreeding with homo sapien

2465
01:37:32,310 --> 01:37:30,400
then they have to have 46 chromosome

2466
01:37:33,750 --> 01:37:32,320
pairs there wouldn't be that's my point

2467
01:37:35,109 --> 01:37:33,760
exactly because you can't even breed

2468
01:37:36,790 --> 01:37:35,119
with a gorilla or a chimpanzee or

2469
01:37:39,109 --> 01:37:36,800
something they're too far from our no

2470
01:37:41,030 --> 01:37:39,119
family line right that's 40 so the fact

2471
01:37:43,830 --> 01:37:41,040
that uh bigfoot is showing

2472
01:37:45,750 --> 01:37:43,840
this you know human line dna

2473
01:37:47,510 --> 01:37:45,760
uh they're very very close to us and

2474
01:37:48,470 --> 01:37:47,520
they have been in breeding with humans

2475
01:37:51,910 --> 01:37:48,480
in the past

2476
01:37:53,350 --> 01:37:51,920
at least pro also possibly more closer

2477
01:37:56,470 --> 01:37:53,360
to the present too

2478
01:37:58,790 --> 01:37:56,480
now uh and and i bring up all of this

2479
01:37:59,750 --> 01:37:58,800
because of a couple of things that you

2480
01:38:04,709 --> 01:37:59,760
said

2481
01:38:06,629 --> 01:38:04,719
about glag uh before the break very

2482
01:38:09,350 --> 01:38:06,639
very crucial points and i'm not going to

2483
01:38:12,550 --> 01:38:09,360
let them get by us you said

2484
01:38:13,590 --> 01:38:12,560
that kevin uh was trying to teach clag

2485
01:38:18,149 --> 01:38:13,600
how to

2486
01:38:20,310 --> 01:38:18,159
i'm assuming yeah and so the

2487
01:38:22,709 --> 01:38:20,320
intelligence is there right

2488
01:38:25,510 --> 01:38:22,719
oh yeah um and then

2489
01:38:27,590 --> 01:38:25,520
glad was speaking did you say glad was

2490
01:38:29,990 --> 01:38:27,600
saying fire or were you just saying oh

2491
01:38:32,070 --> 01:38:30,000
yeah no no no he's learned to speak

2492
01:38:33,510 --> 01:38:32,080
english quite quickly because hey again

2493
01:38:34,790 --> 01:38:33,520
like a four or five-year-old how fast

2494
01:38:36,390 --> 01:38:34,800
are they picking up

2495
01:38:37,590 --> 01:38:36,400
you got somebody jabbing the same word

2496
01:38:38,790 --> 01:38:37,600
at you over and over again and then

2497
01:38:40,470 --> 01:38:38,800
trying to explain to you what it means

2498
01:38:42,070 --> 01:38:40,480
you'll pick it up too as a matter of

2499
01:38:43,350 --> 01:38:42,080
fact he picked up english way faster

2500
01:38:45,350 --> 01:38:43,360
than kevin picked up the words that he

2501
01:38:47,830 --> 01:38:45,360
was trying to teach him in his language

2502
01:38:49,590 --> 01:38:47,840
because it was going both ways yeah oh

2503
01:38:51,189 --> 01:38:49,600
yeah and we're trying to communicate

2504
01:38:53,350 --> 01:38:51,199
with each other it's like if you're a

2505
01:38:55,109 --> 01:38:53,360
fighter pilots that were shot down on on

2506
01:38:56,790 --> 01:38:55,119
a desert island or something from

2507
01:38:58,070 --> 01:38:56,800
different cultures and languages you'd

2508
01:38:59,189 --> 01:38:58,080
have to figure out a way to communicate

2509
01:39:01,189 --> 01:38:59,199
even though you didn't know each other's

2510
01:39:02,709 --> 01:39:01,199
languages the only baseline you've got

2511
01:39:04,790 --> 01:39:02,719
is you can both speak

2512
01:39:06,629 --> 01:39:04,800
and draw pictures in the dirt and draw

2513
01:39:08,390 --> 01:39:06,639
pictures in the dirt right and one of

2514
01:39:10,790 --> 01:39:08,400
the first things kevin did explain to

2515
01:39:12,550 --> 01:39:10,800
him was what what's a day and a night

2516
01:39:14,629 --> 01:39:12,560
you know point up to the sky see this

2517
01:39:17,109 --> 01:39:14,639
see the sun up there that's a day

2518
01:39:19,350 --> 01:39:17,119
and then he'd you know draw a little

2519
01:39:21,750 --> 01:39:19,360
picture of a moon like the sliver moon

2520
01:39:23,510 --> 01:39:21,760
on the dirt and go that's a night

2521
01:39:25,270 --> 01:39:23,520
everything's black and you know finally

2522
01:39:27,430 --> 01:39:25,280
got him to understand that

2523
01:39:29,350 --> 01:39:27,440
and then he started drawing and a box in

2524
01:39:31,270 --> 01:39:29,360
the dirt with a little symbol on it

2525
01:39:33,189 --> 01:39:31,280
going that's one day

2526
01:39:34,390 --> 01:39:33,199
and then he draw like five of them and

2527
01:39:35,990 --> 01:39:34,400
go

2528
01:39:37,350 --> 01:39:36,000
here's one right after that that's when

2529
01:39:39,270 --> 01:39:37,360
i'll be back

2530
01:39:41,189 --> 01:39:39,280
well see that's one of the differences

2531
01:39:42,550 --> 01:39:41,199
between

2532
01:39:44,709 --> 01:39:42,560
uh

2533
01:39:47,669 --> 01:39:44,719
you know primates you know gorillas

2534
01:39:51,109 --> 01:39:47,679
chimps chimpanzees monkeys that they

2535
01:39:53,990 --> 01:39:51,119
don't have the ability to

2536
01:39:57,189 --> 01:39:54,000
vocalize with their vocal cords no they

2537
01:39:59,109 --> 01:39:57,199
don't they don't but you're so

2538
01:40:01,669 --> 01:39:59,119
sasquatch are better than us i found out

2539
01:40:03,189 --> 01:40:01,679
from an insider that they have um

2540
01:40:04,550 --> 01:40:03,199
they actually have three vocal cords

2541
01:40:10,790 --> 01:40:04,560
they can

2542
01:40:12,790 --> 01:40:10,800
throat singers can do and stuff over in

2543
01:40:14,149 --> 01:40:12,800
mongolia in the ball and everything

2544
01:40:17,109 --> 01:40:14,159
imagine what they can do with three

2545
01:40:18,229 --> 01:40:17,119
vocal cords okay so

2546
01:40:19,750 --> 01:40:18,239
lag

2547
01:40:23,030 --> 01:40:19,760
can speak

2548
01:40:26,709 --> 01:40:23,040
oh yeah absolutely and was was kevin

2549
01:40:28,310 --> 01:40:26,719
able to learn glags language

2550
01:40:30,550 --> 01:40:28,320
yeah he learned some words in it

2551
01:40:32,149 --> 01:40:30,560
unfortunately kevin later on in life had

2552
01:40:34,149 --> 01:40:32,159
a stroke and he had written them down so

2553
01:40:36,229 --> 01:40:34,159
he forgot most of them there's still a

2554
01:40:38,629 --> 01:40:36,239
few words that he remembered and some

2555
01:40:40,550 --> 01:40:38,639
other people that were in communication

2556
01:40:41,830 --> 01:40:40,560
with sasquatch actually you know said

2557
01:40:43,590 --> 01:40:41,840
hey kevin you ever heard this and he

2558
01:40:45,430 --> 01:40:43,600
went yeah it means this

2559
01:40:46,709 --> 01:40:45,440
now he knew what they meant if somebody

2560
01:40:48,149 --> 01:40:46,719
else would bring them up but he couldn't

2561
01:40:50,790 --> 01:40:48,159
remember it

2562
01:40:52,709 --> 01:40:50,800
now as crazy as this uh

2563
01:40:54,149 --> 01:40:52,719
story is sounding for those that have

2564
01:40:57,750 --> 01:40:54,159
never heard

2565
01:41:01,430 --> 01:40:57,760
uh the glad story and and kevin lang it

2566
01:41:04,950 --> 01:41:01,440
gets far far more interesting um but

2567
01:41:08,470 --> 01:41:04,960
this first year how

2568
01:41:09,669 --> 01:41:08,480
how often was kevin able to visit with

2569
01:41:12,310 --> 01:41:09,679
glag

2570
01:41:14,790 --> 01:41:12,320
was it daily weekly monthly

2571
01:41:16,149 --> 01:41:14,800
um he actually took some fake hunting

2572
01:41:17,910 --> 01:41:16,159
trips from school so he could go up

2573
01:41:19,109 --> 01:41:17,920
there and spend more time with him

2574
01:41:20,709 --> 01:41:19,119
during the fall because that's when he

2575
01:41:22,550 --> 01:41:20,719
first met with him and that's when a lot

2576
01:41:24,070 --> 01:41:22,560
of interaction was happening and then

2577
01:41:26,229 --> 01:41:24,080
after that it was like he could only get

2578
01:41:28,470 --> 01:41:26,239
up there on weekends but he was only

2579
01:41:29,990 --> 01:41:28,480
about a 20-minute drive away from him so

2580
01:41:31,910 --> 01:41:30,000
he'd hop on his little dirt bike and

2581
01:41:33,189 --> 01:41:31,920
then later in the winter on a snowmobile

2582
01:41:35,030 --> 01:41:33,199
right and he could cruise up there and

2583
01:41:36,550 --> 01:41:35,040
visit him now this became kind of

2584
01:41:37,990 --> 01:41:36,560
alarming to him because by spring he

2585
01:41:40,950 --> 01:41:38,000
started to realize he's too close to

2586
01:41:42,870 --> 01:41:40,960
town i'm going up here too often people

2587
01:41:44,870 --> 01:41:42,880
are starting to follow me

2588
01:41:46,950 --> 01:41:44,880
we need to move him somewhere else

2589
01:41:48,229 --> 01:41:46,960
further away and that was the next big

2590
01:41:49,830 --> 01:41:48,239
challenges

2591
01:41:51,590 --> 01:41:49,840
how do you find a place for this solo

2592
01:41:52,790 --> 01:41:51,600
sasquatch to live by himself and how do

2593
01:41:55,590 --> 01:41:52,800
you get them there without anybody

2594
01:41:56,790 --> 01:41:55,600
seeing it oh there's a there's sasquatch

2595
01:41:59,990 --> 01:41:56,800
realty

2596
01:42:03,510 --> 01:42:00,000
sure yeah just call up an agent

2597
01:42:05,910 --> 01:42:03,520
sasquatch realtors yeah open house

2598
01:42:07,750 --> 01:42:05,920
any abandoned shackies yeah yeah as far

2599
01:42:09,430 --> 01:42:07,760
as they're concerned totally totally

2600
01:42:10,390 --> 01:42:09,440
totally totally totally

2601
01:42:11,830 --> 01:42:10,400
um

2602
01:42:13,990 --> 01:42:11,840
now uh

2603
01:42:15,830 --> 01:42:14,000
you the the other thing that i wanted to

2604
01:42:18,629 --> 01:42:15,840
uh circle back to

2605
01:42:20,229 --> 01:42:18,639
was cooking and fire

2606
01:42:21,430 --> 01:42:20,239
so

2607
01:42:32,470 --> 01:42:21,440
i

2608
01:42:34,229 --> 01:42:32,480
generally no okay uh you know they're

2609
01:42:35,830 --> 01:42:34,239
just as smart and savvy as we are they

2610
01:42:38,470 --> 01:42:35,840
just don't use technology for the most

2611
01:42:40,310 --> 01:42:38,480
part and they do like they do actually

2612
01:42:42,470 --> 01:42:40,320
store up food they will dry food you

2613
01:42:43,910 --> 01:42:42,480
know how we can air dry stuff and

2614
01:42:45,430 --> 01:42:43,920
everything like that or sun dry it they

2615
01:42:47,430 --> 01:42:45,440
can do the same thing with it and then

2616
01:42:49,430 --> 01:42:47,440
they'll just take it take it into a cave

2617
01:42:51,350 --> 01:42:49,440
which is air conditioned 54 degrees year

2618
01:42:52,390 --> 01:42:51,360
round and we've had examples where

2619
01:42:53,590 --> 01:42:52,400
people have found this where there's

2620
01:42:55,990 --> 01:42:53,600
like there's all these little weird

2621
01:42:57,189 --> 01:42:56,000
indentations in the wall what's this and

2622
01:42:59,510 --> 01:42:57,199
they dig at them and there's a little

2623
01:43:01,750 --> 01:42:59,520
dirt plug and the dirt plug comes out

2624
01:43:05,030 --> 01:43:01,760
and what's inside of it is like a

2625
01:43:06,870 --> 01:43:05,040
sun-dried mouse wrapped in a leaf

2626
01:43:08,790 --> 01:43:06,880
bird wrapped and leaf no people have

2627
01:43:10,470 --> 01:43:08,800
actually found this stuff so they stash

2628
01:43:12,310 --> 01:43:10,480
food and i suspect if you go deeper into

2629
01:43:13,430 --> 01:43:12,320
the caves where it's not a good idea to

2630
01:43:15,030 --> 01:43:13,440
go

2631
01:43:16,790 --> 01:43:15,040
uh and it's even colder they could have

2632
01:43:19,030 --> 01:43:16,800
other stuff stashed in there too during

2633
01:43:21,189 --> 01:43:19,040
the winter conditions you know provided

2634
01:43:22,470 --> 01:43:21,199
that you're below 32 degrees in the

2635
01:43:23,910 --> 01:43:22,480
local area

2636
01:43:25,350 --> 01:43:23,920
they can kill big game and just throw it

2637
01:43:26,790 --> 01:43:25,360
in a pile and let the snow bury it and

2638
01:43:27,990 --> 01:43:26,800
it's not going to rot

2639
01:43:31,270 --> 01:43:28,000
they don't have to move around much and

2640
01:43:33,510 --> 01:43:31,280
hunt much during the winter now i um i'm

2641
01:43:36,390 --> 01:43:33,520
going to stay on the the glag

2642
01:43:39,669 --> 01:43:36,400
saga but um i wanted to ask you this

2643
01:43:42,950 --> 01:43:39,679
you're the expert i've uh

2644
01:43:44,709 --> 01:43:42,960
uh i was with some some friends um up in

2645
01:43:45,669 --> 01:43:44,719
washington state

2646
01:43:48,790 --> 01:43:45,679
and

2647
01:43:52,070 --> 01:43:48,800
these uh young boys that were hanging

2648
01:43:54,229 --> 01:43:52,080
out with us uh you know the sons of uh

2649
01:43:55,910 --> 01:43:54,239
the my friends that were there are out

2650
01:43:58,870 --> 01:43:55,920
goofing around

2651
01:44:01,350 --> 01:43:58,880
and uh we've got maybe 200 people

2652
01:44:02,950 --> 01:44:01,360
camping uh we're having a conference my

2653
01:44:06,470 --> 01:44:02,960
conference up there

2654
01:44:08,870 --> 01:44:06,480
and uh and then and i'm like by myself

2655
01:44:11,109 --> 01:44:08,880
and and one of the uh one of the boys

2656
01:44:13,189 --> 01:44:11,119
comes up his name's phoenix and he goes

2657
01:44:14,709 --> 01:44:13,199
hey jimmy you want to see a big

2658
01:44:17,510 --> 01:44:14,719
footprint

2659
01:44:20,870 --> 01:44:17,520
and i'm like man i'm tired you know

2660
01:44:23,030 --> 01:44:20,880
how far away is it ah big footprint

2661
01:44:25,590 --> 01:44:23,040
right i'm just like

2662
01:44:27,030 --> 01:44:25,600
not interested

2663
01:44:29,270 --> 01:44:27,040
i go uh

2664
01:44:31,030 --> 01:44:29,280
all right where is it

2665
01:44:33,510 --> 01:44:31,040
and he goes it's right over there and he

2666
01:44:36,550 --> 01:44:33,520
points and i see the other three

2667
01:44:37,990 --> 01:44:36,560
right uh and standing there and looking

2668
01:44:41,189 --> 01:44:38,000
they're looking at me like are you

2669
01:44:43,669 --> 01:44:41,199
coming right like oh man all right the

2670
01:44:45,189 --> 01:44:43,679
cranky old dude you know i'll walk over

2671
01:44:46,629 --> 01:44:45,199
there it's about 100 yards out in the

2672
01:44:48,550 --> 01:44:46,639
middle of this field

2673
01:44:50,470 --> 01:44:48,560
now here's the deal i don't want to get

2674
01:44:52,950 --> 01:44:50,480
into the details you're the guest on the

2675
01:44:54,950 --> 01:44:52,960
show but i have a question about this

2676
01:44:57,030 --> 01:44:54,960
so and i'll send you the pictures and

2677
01:44:58,709 --> 01:44:57,040
things okay and i've got some video i'll

2678
01:45:02,629 --> 01:44:58,719
send you all of this anyway

2679
01:45:05,030 --> 01:45:02,639
so i walk up and i look down and now um

2680
01:45:07,109 --> 01:45:05,040
this is the reason why i want to ask you

2681
01:45:09,189 --> 01:45:07,119
around us

2682
01:45:10,950 --> 01:45:09,199
my my rv

2683
01:45:12,550 --> 01:45:10,960
right it's right there

2684
01:45:19,590 --> 01:45:12,560
40 foot rv

2685
01:45:22,390 --> 01:45:19,600
got it we're camping in this field

2686
01:45:24,470 --> 01:45:22,400
pretty close to where these prints are i

2687
01:45:25,669 --> 01:45:24,480
haven't seen them yet so i walk up and i

2688
01:45:28,229 --> 01:45:25,679
look down

2689
01:45:32,790 --> 01:45:29,350
this big

2690
01:45:34,950 --> 01:45:32,800
18 inches you know or bigger

2691
01:45:36,790 --> 01:45:34,960
and it's like this deep in the hard pack

2692
01:45:38,149 --> 01:45:36,800
dirt like two and a half maybe three

2693
01:45:40,390 --> 01:45:38,159
inches deep

2694
01:45:41,990 --> 01:45:40,400
you know like that and it's toes the ar

2695
01:45:43,830 --> 01:45:42,000
the it's a

2696
01:45:45,270 --> 01:45:43,840
friggin footprint man

2697
01:45:47,189 --> 01:45:45,280
this big

2698
01:45:49,669 --> 01:45:47,199
and uh

2699
01:45:52,790 --> 01:45:49,679
and i can't believe what i'm looking at

2700
01:45:55,189 --> 01:45:52,800
now we ended up finding four

2701
01:45:58,629 --> 01:45:55,199
left right or uh

2702
01:46:01,189 --> 01:45:58,639
right left right left going in an arch

2703
01:46:03,750 --> 01:46:01,199
but nothing before and nothing after

2704
01:46:06,310 --> 01:46:03,760
it's like this thing materialized

2705
01:46:09,109 --> 01:46:06,320
and dropped down into this field i'm 200

2706
01:46:12,950 --> 01:46:09,119
pounds i'm six foot tall i'm a fat dude

2707
01:46:14,870 --> 01:46:12,960
right i'm not making a dent in this dirt

2708
01:46:16,790 --> 01:46:14,880
these prints are this and it's fresh you

2709
01:46:18,229 --> 01:46:16,800
can tell they were like they were done

2710
01:46:21,270 --> 01:46:18,239
the night before

2711
01:46:23,750 --> 01:46:21,280
and that's what freaked me out

2712
01:46:24,950 --> 01:46:23,760
in the middle of this campsite with 200

2713
01:46:28,390 --> 01:46:24,960
people

2714
01:46:31,430 --> 01:46:28,400
and it looked like it arched and it they

2715
01:46:33,669 --> 01:46:31,440
ended maybe 20 feet from this rv going

2716
01:46:35,350 --> 01:46:33,679
in that direction but there were no more

2717
01:46:38,390 --> 01:46:35,360
prints after that

2718
01:46:40,310 --> 01:46:38,400
is that does that even make sense to you

2719
01:46:41,669 --> 01:46:40,320
or do you think this kind of stuff comes

2720
01:46:43,830 --> 01:46:41,679
up more often than you'd think it does

2721
01:46:45,510 --> 01:46:43,840
jimmy and a lot of people will

2722
01:46:48,390 --> 01:46:45,520
try and assign you know

2723
01:46:49,830 --> 01:46:48,400
prozac explanations to it well i was

2724
01:46:51,030 --> 01:46:49,840
following this track line that went out

2725
01:46:53,109 --> 01:46:51,040
in the middle of this field and it just

2726
01:46:54,550 --> 01:46:53,119
stopped well maybe it just backtracked

2727
01:46:56,390 --> 01:46:54,560
itself and it was stepping in its own

2728
01:46:58,229 --> 01:46:56,400
footprints and then it jumped up in a

2729
01:46:59,750 --> 01:46:58,239
tree when it got back and you know

2730
01:47:01,270 --> 01:46:59,760
because humans can do that kind of thing

2731
01:47:03,750 --> 01:47:01,280
if you're really good you know how to do

2732
01:47:05,109 --> 01:47:03,760
it you can do it so it's possible but

2733
01:47:06,870 --> 01:47:05,119
how about the ones where you go out in

2734
01:47:08,790 --> 01:47:06,880
the field and there's no tracks going up

2735
01:47:10,709 --> 01:47:08,800
to it and then there's a track line and

2736
01:47:12,790 --> 01:47:10,719
then it just stops again that's what has

2737
01:47:15,990 --> 01:47:12,800
been reports of this stuff in the snow

2738
01:47:18,390 --> 01:47:16,000
jimmy it doesn't make any way in hell

2739
01:47:20,550 --> 01:47:18,400
and there's another part to this duke

2740
01:47:23,030 --> 01:47:20,560
and so let me throw this out there to

2741
01:47:24,629 --> 01:47:23,040
you i mean i was freaking myself out

2742
01:47:28,470 --> 01:47:24,639
watching this

2743
01:47:29,910 --> 01:47:28,480
looking at the the prints were like

2744
01:47:32,950 --> 01:47:29,920
i think they were

2745
01:47:37,430 --> 01:47:32,960
between six and eight feet apart

2746
01:47:39,430 --> 01:47:37,440
and so i'm trying to do my step

2747
01:47:41,430 --> 01:47:39,440
and we did did all of this on video and

2748
01:47:43,990 --> 01:47:41,440
i'm making it halfway

2749
01:47:47,030 --> 01:47:44,000
i'm not even getting close to where the

2750
01:47:48,790 --> 01:47:47,040
second print is you know right left

2751
01:47:51,590 --> 01:47:48,800
and it

2752
01:47:54,310 --> 01:47:51,600
way big whatever this was

2753
01:47:56,149 --> 01:47:54,320
it was big and and i don't i don't want

2754
01:47:59,430 --> 01:47:56,159
to say hoax

2755
01:48:01,430 --> 01:47:59,440
it was too dramatic almost to be real

2756
01:48:03,830 --> 01:48:01,440
right i mean it was just too perfect

2757
01:48:06,149 --> 01:48:03,840
they were in the dirt they were sunken

2758
01:48:08,070 --> 01:48:06,159
in the grass was all bent down you could

2759
01:48:09,910 --> 01:48:08,080
see the toes and everything and it was

2760
01:48:12,310 --> 01:48:09,920
like six feet apart

2761
01:48:14,310 --> 01:48:12,320
big gate

2762
01:48:16,470 --> 01:48:14,320
well you know we commonly find tracks in

2763
01:48:17,270 --> 01:48:16,480
our research areas and it's

2764
01:48:19,350 --> 01:48:17,280
uh

2765
01:48:20,629 --> 01:48:19,360
you only you never find track lines

2766
01:48:24,149 --> 01:48:20,639
you just never do

2767
01:48:26,550 --> 01:48:24,159
uh the most we've we found recently um

2768
01:48:28,070 --> 01:48:26,560
three 21-inch tracks

2769
01:48:30,149 --> 01:48:28,080
uh last year

2770
01:48:32,070 --> 01:48:30,159
right near each other in a muddy area

2771
01:48:33,669 --> 01:48:32,080
but usually it's only one or two tracks

2772
01:48:35,350 --> 01:48:33,679
and we'll be in areas where we're

2773
01:48:37,030 --> 01:48:35,360
investigating huge structures and trying

2774
01:48:38,310 --> 01:48:37,040
to get video of those and you start

2775
01:48:40,390 --> 01:48:38,320
watching the ground and occasionally

2776
01:48:42,629 --> 01:48:40,400
you'll see a random track there some of

2777
01:48:43,910 --> 01:48:42,639
them are pretty obvious but you hardly

2778
01:48:46,149 --> 01:48:43,920
ever see anything more than that and

2779
01:48:47,750 --> 01:48:46,159
they are really good at hiding their

2780
01:48:49,990 --> 01:48:47,760
presence you know one of the things we

2781
01:48:51,590 --> 01:48:50,000
notice in areas where they have a lot of

2782
01:48:53,109 --> 01:48:51,600
traffic there

2783
01:48:54,709 --> 01:48:53,119
they knock down all kinds of timber or

2784
01:48:56,149 --> 01:48:54,719
they even drag in dead trees and throw

2785
01:48:57,830 --> 01:48:56,159
them on the ground because they'll walk

2786
01:48:59,590 --> 01:48:57,840
on them they don't leave a track when

2787
01:49:02,229 --> 01:48:59,600
they're walking on the timber and this

2788
01:49:05,030 --> 01:49:02,239
was noticed and documented by

2789
01:49:06,790 --> 01:49:05,040
jack barnes and jeff anderson in

2790
01:49:08,790 --> 01:49:06,800
minnesota trackway when they filmed that

2791
01:49:10,390 --> 01:49:08,800
up in northern minnesota in the winter

2792
01:49:12,149 --> 01:49:10,400
quite a few years ago

2793
01:49:13,510 --> 01:49:12,159
they were just blazing new trails

2794
01:49:15,510 --> 01:49:13,520
snowmobiles they had chainsaws they're

2795
01:49:17,589 --> 01:49:15,520
cutting through deadfall making a trail

2796
01:49:19,910 --> 01:49:17,599
and they found this trackway

2797
01:49:21,990 --> 01:49:19,920
going through like two foot deep snow in

2798
01:49:23,990 --> 01:49:22,000
the middle of nowhere there's 16-inch

2799
01:49:25,589 --> 01:49:24,000
tracks there's no humans out here so

2800
01:49:26,790 --> 01:49:25,599
they started following it they spent the

2801
01:49:28,790 --> 01:49:26,800
whole day following this thing and

2802
01:49:30,070 --> 01:49:28,800
filming it and there was a couple of

2803
01:49:31,750 --> 01:49:30,080
places where he was doing the same thing

2804
01:49:33,910 --> 01:49:31,760
you're talking about he was trying to

2805
01:49:35,910 --> 01:49:33,920
step from one track to another and the

2806
01:49:37,669 --> 01:49:35,920
one he couldn't even reach halfway to

2807
01:49:39,350 --> 01:49:37,679
where the track came down and the track

2808
01:49:41,430 --> 01:49:39,360
came down on top of a log that was about

2809
01:49:43,270 --> 01:49:41,440
two and a half feet off the ground

2810
01:49:44,950 --> 01:49:43,280
and what he noticed as he was well let

2811
01:49:46,310 --> 01:49:44,960
me finish now okay he noticed as he was

2812
01:49:48,070 --> 01:49:46,320
filming this which by the way is the

2813
01:49:49,830 --> 01:49:48,080
longest documented track line ever

2814
01:49:51,109 --> 01:49:49,840
filmed and they they only gave up

2815
01:49:52,950 --> 01:49:51,119
because it was getting dark and they

2816
01:49:55,189 --> 01:49:52,960
didn't want to find whatever it was they

2817
01:49:57,910 --> 01:49:55,199
were following but over and over again

2818
01:49:59,910 --> 01:49:57,920
it would walk on fallen logs in

2819
01:50:01,589 --> 01:49:59,920
preference to being on the ground and

2820
01:50:03,350 --> 01:50:01,599
even though there was sometimes snow on

2821
01:50:06,149 --> 01:50:03,360
top of the logs so it would still leave

2822
01:50:08,229 --> 01:50:06,159
tracks it was so ingrained in it to do

2823
01:50:10,070 --> 01:50:08,239
that that it was walking on those logs

2824
01:50:12,550 --> 01:50:10,080
all the time they back trailed it to

2825
01:50:14,310 --> 01:50:12,560
where the tracks came from

2826
01:50:16,470 --> 01:50:14,320
and there was just this hillside and

2827
01:50:17,910 --> 01:50:16,480
they couldn't find any tracks and then

2828
01:50:19,189 --> 01:50:17,920
they came back a couple days later and

2829
01:50:21,430 --> 01:50:19,199
looked at it again and realized there

2830
01:50:22,870 --> 01:50:21,440
were logs lying from the top of the hill

2831
01:50:24,950 --> 01:50:22,880
all the way down to the bottom where the

2832
01:50:25,990 --> 01:50:24,960
tracks started it walked from the top of

2833
01:50:27,189 --> 01:50:26,000
the hill all the way down to the bottom

2834
01:50:28,709 --> 01:50:27,199
of the hill staying on the logs the

2835
01:50:30,870 --> 01:50:28,719
whole way and that's why i hadn't left

2836
01:50:32,950 --> 01:50:30,880
the track like we would do when we were

2837
01:50:34,550 --> 01:50:32,960
kids yeah right and they're doing this

2838
01:50:36,070 --> 01:50:34,560
on purpose they're just as smart as we

2839
01:50:37,350 --> 01:50:36,080
are they're trying to avoid detection

2840
01:50:39,910 --> 01:50:37,360
right and they've had a whole lifetime

2841
01:50:41,270 --> 01:50:39,920
to practice so man are they good at it

2842
01:50:43,030 --> 01:50:41,280
and that's not including their

2843
01:50:45,430 --> 01:50:43,040
paranormal abilities which yes they

2844
01:50:47,430 --> 01:50:45,440
apparently have now so when i tell you

2845
01:50:49,350 --> 01:50:47,440
we only found four footprints nothing

2846
01:50:51,030 --> 01:50:49,360
before nothing after

2847
01:50:53,109 --> 01:50:51,040
we're scratching our heads how could

2848
01:50:55,430 --> 01:50:53,119
this be and you're saying

2849
01:50:56,870 --> 01:50:55,440
that's just the way it is yeah that's

2850
01:50:59,030 --> 01:50:56,880
the way a lot of researchers will tell

2851
01:51:01,910 --> 01:50:59,040
you very similar stories the same kind

2852
01:51:04,070 --> 01:51:01,920
of thing can't account for it

2853
01:51:05,750 --> 01:51:04,080
just weekend before last we had found

2854
01:51:08,550 --> 01:51:05,760
this little stream that was a tributary

2855
01:51:10,470 --> 01:51:08,560
of this one area and uh this pass in the

2856
01:51:11,990 --> 01:51:10,480
mountains we like to research and we

2857
01:51:13,830 --> 01:51:12,000
just started walking up it now there's

2858
01:51:15,510 --> 01:51:13,840
no trail going up this thing there isn't

2859
01:51:17,270 --> 01:51:15,520
even a game trail and there's a

2860
01:51:18,950 --> 01:51:17,280
low-lying vegetation anything that went

2861
01:51:20,310 --> 01:51:18,960
through there recently

2862
01:51:21,350 --> 01:51:20,320
would have actually ruffled it around

2863
01:51:23,669 --> 01:51:21,360
you would have seen that there had been

2864
01:51:25,750 --> 01:51:23,679
passage of an animal and mike gets up in

2865
01:51:27,189 --> 01:51:25,760
front of me and he goes track right here

2866
01:51:28,629 --> 01:51:27,199
and he looks down and i'm like filming

2867
01:51:29,990 --> 01:51:28,639
it and i'm pulling the foliage out of

2868
01:51:31,270 --> 01:51:30,000
the way so he could see it and he's

2869
01:51:33,669 --> 01:51:31,280
dropping the tape measure there's an

2870
01:51:35,510 --> 01:51:33,679
18-inch track right there

2871
01:51:37,669 --> 01:51:35,520
and we didn't find any before it or any

2872
01:51:39,350 --> 01:51:37,679
after it there probably were

2873
01:51:41,510 --> 01:51:39,360
but at that point we were interested in

2874
01:51:42,790 --> 01:51:41,520
seeing where it was going so we kept

2875
01:51:44,070 --> 01:51:42,800
going further up the hill and guess what

2876
01:51:46,550 --> 01:51:44,080
was up there about a hundred year old

2877
01:51:53,350 --> 01:51:46,560
abandoned log cabin

2878
01:51:58,310 --> 01:51:55,270
that's the homestead they they don't

2879
01:52:00,149 --> 01:51:58,320
mind staying in an abandoned log cabin

2880
01:52:01,830 --> 01:52:00,159
or nobody would if you need a place to

2881
01:52:04,070 --> 01:52:01,840
stay for that matter

2882
01:52:06,790 --> 01:52:04,080
this comes up really frequently in the

2883
01:52:09,030 --> 01:52:06,800
south where you hear lots of reports of

2884
01:52:11,270 --> 01:52:09,040
old abandoned barns and old abandoned

2885
01:52:12,390 --> 01:52:11,280
farms and there's ghosts there and

2886
01:52:13,910 --> 01:52:12,400
nobody goes there well how do you know

2887
01:52:16,310 --> 01:52:13,920
there's ghosts there because we hear

2888
01:52:17,910 --> 01:52:16,320
these horrible cries and howls and stuff

2889
01:52:19,270 --> 01:52:17,920
coming from there at night that no

2890
01:52:20,709 --> 01:52:19,280
normal animal makes well there's a

2891
01:52:22,310 --> 01:52:20,719
bigfoot living there

2892
01:52:23,669 --> 01:52:22,320
it's not haunted

2893
01:52:24,709 --> 01:52:23,679
nobody's living there so they're taking

2894
01:52:26,149 --> 01:52:24,719
advantage of it they don't like getting

2895
01:52:27,270 --> 01:52:26,159
rained on any more than anybody else hey

2896
01:52:28,950 --> 01:52:27,280
it's raining i'll just go hang out in

2897
01:52:31,910 --> 01:52:28,960
the barn for a little while

2898
01:52:33,589 --> 01:52:31,920
so interesting and uh now let's swing

2899
01:52:34,470 --> 01:52:33,599
back to glag

2900
01:52:37,270 --> 01:52:34,480
um

2901
01:52:40,950 --> 01:52:37,280
at at the end of this first year

2902
01:52:41,990 --> 01:52:40,960
uh did kevin uh was he successful in

2903
01:52:44,629 --> 01:52:42,000
in uh

2904
01:52:45,990 --> 01:52:44,639
relocating glag yeah that's a whole

2905
01:52:47,589 --> 01:52:46,000
episode right there and they just went

2906
01:52:48,950 --> 01:52:47,599
through hell kevin did a lot of scouting

2907
01:52:50,390 --> 01:52:48,960
all over the place trying to figure out

2908
01:52:52,390 --> 01:52:50,400
where to move them to

2909
01:52:53,750 --> 01:52:52,400
and when they finally did get moved it

2910
01:52:55,350 --> 01:52:53,760
didn't turn out to be a good place

2911
01:52:57,990 --> 01:52:55,360
apparently there was already a group

2912
01:52:59,750 --> 01:52:58,000
living there that didn't like him so he

2913
01:53:02,390 --> 01:52:59,760
was getting beaten up a lot

2914
01:53:03,830 --> 01:53:02,400
glad was getting beaten up yeah well i

2915
01:53:05,350 --> 01:53:03,840
mean he was just a little kid at that

2916
01:53:06,950 --> 01:53:05,360
point he was probably only around seven

2917
01:53:09,109 --> 01:53:06,960
feet or a little bit bigger so to

2918
01:53:10,390 --> 01:53:09,119
regular sasquatch he was just a runt

2919
01:53:11,750 --> 01:53:10,400
and he wasn't part of the group

2920
01:53:12,950 --> 01:53:11,760
apparently they never

2921
01:53:14,709 --> 01:53:12,960
probably didn't like the fact he was

2922
01:53:15,910 --> 01:53:14,719
hanging around with humans so

2923
01:53:18,149 --> 01:53:15,920
they were

2924
01:53:19,510 --> 01:53:18,159
being bullied like him and kevin started

2925
01:53:20,950 --> 01:53:19,520
noticing when he was coming and visiting

2926
01:53:22,629 --> 01:53:20,960
him that he had bruises on him and stuff

2927
01:53:24,070 --> 01:53:22,639
it was looking like he was getting the

2928
01:53:25,910 --> 01:53:24,080
worst end of something fighting with

2929
01:53:27,669 --> 01:53:25,920
something up there and he couldn't quite

2930
01:53:28,870 --> 01:53:27,679
get glad to explain to him what was

2931
01:53:30,870 --> 01:53:28,880
going on

2932
01:53:32,629 --> 01:53:30,880
so being that he was taking a keto

2933
01:53:34,550 --> 01:53:32,639
lessons he decided to try and teach clag

2934
01:53:35,589 --> 01:53:34,560
some basic self-defense

2935
01:53:37,510 --> 01:53:35,599
which

2936
01:53:39,350 --> 01:53:37,520
in some cases worked and in other cases

2937
01:53:41,189 --> 01:53:39,360
was hilariously didn't work because

2938
01:53:42,629 --> 01:53:41,199
their body is built a little bit

2939
01:53:44,390 --> 01:53:42,639
different than ours is so some of the

2940
01:53:46,629 --> 01:53:44,400
kicking techniques and stuff would look

2941
01:53:48,470 --> 01:53:46,639
really awkward and he couldn't quite get

2942
01:53:50,790 --> 01:53:48,480
him to work properly but the hand

2943
01:53:53,189 --> 01:53:50,800
techniques were pretty great and he

2944
01:53:55,510 --> 01:53:53,199
as soon as he figured out how to punch

2945
01:53:56,950 --> 01:53:55,520
oh boy is that cool because they just

2946
01:53:58,470 --> 01:53:56,960
hammer fist you with the edge of their

2947
01:53:59,910 --> 01:53:58,480
hand like a gorilla would punch or

2948
01:54:02,149 --> 01:53:59,920
something they don't know about knuckle

2949
01:54:04,550 --> 01:54:02,159
punching and kevin got him to hold his

2950
01:54:06,229 --> 01:54:04,560
palm of his hand up and did the hammer

2951
01:54:08,310 --> 01:54:06,239
piss side punching here's how you guys

2952
01:54:10,790 --> 01:54:08,320
hit here's how we hit and then he did

2953
01:54:12,550 --> 01:54:10,800
the crack you know snap your hips give

2954
01:54:14,629 --> 01:54:12,560
him the little lightning whip like

2955
01:54:16,629 --> 01:54:14,639
whipping the the wet towel sort of thing

2956
01:54:17,990 --> 01:54:16,639
and his hand punched him like that and

2957
01:54:19,750 --> 01:54:18,000
he said you should have seen his eyes

2958
01:54:22,149 --> 01:54:19,760
light up and this big grin came across

2959
01:54:23,510 --> 01:54:22,159
his face and then he was like oh yeah

2960
01:54:24,390 --> 01:54:23,520
you know he wanted to learn how to do

2961
01:54:26,470 --> 01:54:24,400
that

2962
01:54:28,070 --> 01:54:26,480
so apparently after teaching him for a

2963
01:54:29,669 --> 01:54:28,080
few months uh kevin was up there and

2964
01:54:30,790 --> 01:54:29,679
glad was all excited wanted to show him

2965
01:54:31,990 --> 01:54:30,800
something

2966
01:54:33,990 --> 01:54:32,000
and uh

2967
01:54:35,510 --> 01:54:34,000
showed him how to he was practicing his

2968
01:54:36,870 --> 01:54:35,520
front punch and he'd punch this tree

2969
01:54:38,629 --> 01:54:36,880
that was about

2970
01:54:40,790 --> 01:54:38,639
six eight inches in diameter and

2971
01:54:42,950 --> 01:54:40,800
shattered it

2972
01:54:44,149 --> 01:54:42,960
and then kevin kind of started thinking

2973
01:54:47,030 --> 01:54:44,159
did

2974
01:54:49,030 --> 01:54:47,040
should i really be teaching him this

2975
01:54:52,310 --> 01:54:49,040
i want him to defend himself but should

2976
01:54:54,390 --> 01:54:52,320
i really be teaching him this so uh did

2977
01:54:57,270 --> 01:54:54,400
did glad leave

2978
01:54:59,109 --> 01:54:57,280
this location in this group

2979
01:55:00,390 --> 01:54:59,119
um they moved him a short distance away

2980
01:55:02,470 --> 01:55:00,400
from there apparently which is all they

2981
01:55:04,070 --> 01:55:02,480
needed to keep him out of the territory

2982
01:55:06,149 --> 01:55:04,080
he got an indication there was something

2983
01:55:08,149 --> 01:55:06,159
weird going on that he had never really

2984
01:55:09,990 --> 01:55:08,159
realized what it meant until years later

2985
01:55:11,589 --> 01:55:10,000
because he was uh running around the

2986
01:55:13,030 --> 01:55:11,599
glasgow crossing this field and on the

2987
01:55:15,030 --> 01:55:13,040
far side of the field he saw what looked

2988
01:55:16,709 --> 01:55:15,040
like a giant x

2989
01:55:18,870 --> 01:55:16,719
and glad shied away and wouldn't go into

2990
01:55:20,070 --> 01:55:18,880
the woods over there and at that time he

2991
01:55:22,070 --> 01:55:20,080
didn't know anything about tree

2992
01:55:24,229 --> 01:55:22,080
structures and he certainly didn't know

2993
01:55:26,390 --> 01:55:24,239
that that was a territorial marker now

2994
01:55:28,950 --> 01:55:26,400
we've seen these okay we've seen this a

2995
01:55:31,589 --> 01:55:28,960
lot right two trees in an

2996
01:55:34,310 --> 01:55:31,599
x formation uh we've got two minutes

2997
01:55:35,350 --> 01:55:34,320
before the break what what is that duke

2998
01:55:37,350 --> 01:55:35,360
well we're pretty sure it's a

2999
01:55:39,830 --> 01:55:37,360
territorial marker as a matter of fact

3000
01:55:40,629 --> 01:55:39,840
if they have a tree leaning on one side

3001
01:55:42,629 --> 01:55:40,639
of it

3002
01:55:44,950 --> 01:55:42,639
especially if it's butt end up

3003
01:55:47,030 --> 01:55:44,960
that's a warning keep out that's a giant

3004
01:55:48,790 --> 01:55:47,040
keep out sign you're insane to go in

3005
01:55:51,270 --> 01:55:48,800
there if you go past it and that's if

3006
01:55:52,950 --> 01:55:51,280
the roots are up yeah well that's if

3007
01:55:55,830 --> 01:55:52,960
there's anything leaning against one

3008
01:55:57,510 --> 01:55:55,840
side of it roots up it's even worse

3009
01:55:59,270 --> 01:55:57,520
they they if they make an x structure

3010
01:56:02,470 --> 01:55:59,280
it's going to be a kleenex structure and

3011
01:56:04,709 --> 01:56:02,480
by that i mean that like 99 of the time

3012
01:56:06,709 --> 01:56:04,719
the diameters will be the same the

3013
01:56:08,470 --> 01:56:06,719
length will be the same they will not

3014
01:56:10,229 --> 01:56:08,480
have any branches on them half the time

3015
01:56:12,709 --> 01:56:10,239
the bark is ripped off of them and

3016
01:56:13,910 --> 01:56:12,719
they're leaning touching each other if

3017
01:56:16,229 --> 01:56:13,920
there's any difference between them it's

3018
01:56:17,669 --> 01:56:16,239
not an x structure it's just natural now

3019
01:56:19,109 --> 01:56:17,679
it's an actual x structure that both

3020
01:56:21,189 --> 01:56:19,119
sides are touching each other right and

3021
01:56:25,189 --> 01:56:21,199
it's symmetrical now what do you what do

3022
01:56:26,390 --> 01:56:25,199
you do if you come on uh come upon an x

3023
01:56:28,310 --> 01:56:26,400
structure

3024
01:56:29,830 --> 01:56:28,320
we just found three giant ones weekend

3025
01:56:31,109 --> 01:56:29,840
before last year we had never spotted

3026
01:56:32,070 --> 01:56:31,119
before two of them were sure they just

3027
01:56:33,589 --> 01:56:32,080
built

3028
01:56:35,669 --> 01:56:33,599
and the third one may have been there a

3029
01:56:37,750 --> 01:56:35,679
long time we haven't been in that area

3030
01:56:39,750 --> 01:56:37,760
um you check around the area near it to

3031
01:56:41,189 --> 01:56:39,760
see if there's any tertiary structures

3032
01:56:43,030 --> 01:56:41,199
because generally if they build any

3033
01:56:44,310 --> 01:56:43,040
really big structure that means the

3034
01:56:46,470 --> 01:56:44,320
little munchkins are hanging around

3035
01:56:47,830 --> 01:56:46,480
there they're little squatchlits or kids

3036
01:56:49,350 --> 01:56:47,840
while the adults are putting their stuff

3037
01:56:50,870 --> 01:56:49,360
up they get bored and they go i'm going

3038
01:56:52,149 --> 01:56:50,880
to copy dad they make their own little

3039
01:56:54,070 --> 01:56:52,159
version of it

3040
01:56:56,070 --> 01:56:54,080
and the one superx that we had

3041
01:56:57,750 --> 01:56:56,080
documented that was exactly what they

3042
01:57:00,950 --> 01:56:57,760
did there they had a little tertiary

3043
01:57:02,629 --> 01:57:00,960
ex-structure up to the right side of it

3044
01:57:04,229 --> 01:57:02,639
that apparently the kids had built out

3045
01:57:06,070 --> 01:57:04,239
of logs that would still be hard for an

3046
01:57:07,990 --> 01:57:06,080
adult human to move

3047
01:57:09,990 --> 01:57:08,000
but little compared to what their their

3048
01:57:10,950 --> 01:57:10,000
adult parents were moving around did you

3049
01:57:12,629 --> 01:57:10,960
call

3050
01:57:14,390 --> 01:57:12,639
squatchlitz

3051
01:57:16,149 --> 01:57:14,400
yeah yeah that's what i call the little

3052
01:57:18,950 --> 01:57:16,159
ones with squatchlitz

3053
01:57:23,270 --> 01:57:18,960
now uh

3054
01:57:26,310 --> 01:57:23,280
we got 90 seconds so we got we like i'm

3055
01:57:29,910 --> 01:57:26,320
a part of the crew now

3056
01:57:31,990 --> 01:57:29,920
so we get glag a new house

3057
01:57:33,350 --> 01:57:32,000
yep well he's moved safely away from

3058
01:57:34,950 --> 01:57:33,360
there and i guess things went pretty

3059
01:57:36,149 --> 01:57:34,960
well out there for

3060
01:57:39,510 --> 01:57:36,159
a couple years they did a lot of

3061
01:57:40,950 --> 01:57:39,520
adventuring around reconning the area

3062
01:57:42,870 --> 01:57:40,960
you know during the summer go swimming

3063
01:57:44,229 --> 01:57:42,880
in the rivers and during the winter

3064
01:57:46,950 --> 01:57:44,239
kevin couldn't get up there as much and

3065
01:57:48,229 --> 01:57:46,960
now the distance had increased a lot so

3066
01:57:49,990 --> 01:57:48,239
for him to go up there meant he

3067
01:57:51,669 --> 01:57:50,000
basically had to have the weekend

3068
01:57:53,510 --> 01:57:51,679
because it took the better part of a day

3069
01:57:56,229 --> 01:57:53,520
for him to get there or to get back

3070
01:57:57,910 --> 01:57:56,239
again right so he a lot more limited

3071
01:57:59,030 --> 01:57:57,920
amount of time he was spending with glad

3072
01:58:00,550 --> 01:57:59,040
and he could tell it was really

3073
01:58:02,470 --> 01:58:00,560
bothering him because they're social

3074
01:58:04,310 --> 01:58:02,480
just like we are sure and he's out there

3075
01:58:06,709 --> 01:58:04,320
all by himself and most of the time he

3076
01:58:08,229 --> 01:58:06,719
doesn't have anybody else around so when

3077
01:58:10,149 --> 01:58:08,239
kevin was it was there it was all like

3078
01:58:11,589 --> 01:58:10,159
woohoo fun time right and another thing

3079
01:58:12,390 --> 01:58:11,599
that kevin noticed is that they had that

3080
01:58:14,310 --> 01:58:12,400
little

3081
01:58:15,830 --> 01:58:14,320
tertiary cave that they would meet at

3082
01:58:17,830 --> 01:58:15,840
and you know of course he he would get

3083
01:58:19,510 --> 01:58:17,840
tired he'd have to go to sleep he never

3084
01:58:20,790 --> 01:58:19,520
saw glad sleep

3085
01:58:22,070 --> 01:58:20,800
and he thought about that years later

3086
01:58:23,830 --> 01:58:22,080
and he goes you know i think he was

3087
01:58:25,589 --> 01:58:23,840
awake guarding me all night long when i

3088
01:58:27,270 --> 01:58:25,599
was sleeping there he was probably awake

3089
01:58:29,189 --> 01:58:27,280
the entire time i was out there from i

3090
01:58:29,990 --> 01:58:29,199
got there until i left

3091
01:58:32,870 --> 01:58:30,000
now

3092
01:58:35,750 --> 01:58:32,880
weren't there um

3093
01:58:38,470 --> 01:58:35,760
uh i i i wanted to use the word toys it

3094
01:58:39,270 --> 01:58:38,480
might be wrong but the things that kevin

3095
01:58:44,149 --> 01:58:39,280
uh

3096
01:58:45,990 --> 01:58:44,159
were at this mid cave

3097
01:58:47,589 --> 01:58:46,000
yes some of them were there and glad had

3098
01:58:48,629 --> 01:58:47,599
some of them i guess over it is main

3099
01:58:51,270 --> 01:58:48,639
cave

3100
01:58:52,950 --> 01:58:51,280
um when they they finally parted ways

3101
01:58:54,629 --> 01:58:52,960
glad brought all the stuff back and left

3102
01:58:56,390 --> 01:58:54,639
it at that midway cave

3103
01:58:58,709 --> 01:58:56,400
uh apparently for kevin to take back if

3104
01:59:00,629 --> 01:58:58,719
he wanted it right

3105
01:59:02,390 --> 01:59:00,639
and that's uh that's um

3106
01:59:04,070 --> 01:59:02,400
that's gonna put a lump in my throat but

3107
01:59:05,350 --> 01:59:04,080
we're gonna talk about that part of the

3108
01:59:07,750 --> 01:59:05,360
story

3109
01:59:10,390 --> 01:59:07,760
uh next when we come back and i'm sure

3110
01:59:13,270 --> 01:59:10,400
that we just got everybody's attention

3111
01:59:14,629 --> 01:59:13,280
with that one this is fade to black i am

3112
01:59:18,149 --> 01:59:14,639
your host jimmy church tonight duke

3113
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sullivan world bigfoot radio we're gonna

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run out of time but here's the good news

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3160
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periods of time you can see them flying

3161
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3162
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3201
02:03:35,830 --> 02:03:32,000
you want to know a secret

3202
02:03:37,189 --> 02:03:35,840
i love ponies i really love ponies i'm

3203
02:03:39,430 --> 02:03:37,199
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3204
02:03:40,790 --> 02:03:39,440
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3206
02:03:49,350 --> 02:03:42,880
why fade to black

3207
02:03:54,069 --> 02:03:51,510
this is fade to black with jimmy church

3208
02:03:58,670 --> 02:03:54,079
on the game changer radio network and

3209
02:04:14,709 --> 02:03:58,680
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3210
02:04:19,750 --> 02:04:16,790
i'm late coming back i'm tweeting i'm

3211
02:04:22,149 --> 02:04:19,760
texting i'm hanging out

3212
02:04:24,470 --> 02:04:22,159
and uh duke sullivan is our guest

3213
02:04:25,589 --> 02:04:24,480
tonight of world bigfoot radio

3214
02:04:27,430 --> 02:04:25,599
and uh

3215
02:04:29,910 --> 02:04:27,440
i gotta tell you dude

3216
02:04:32,229 --> 02:04:29,920
glad has got a fan club now man i mean

3217
02:04:34,069 --> 02:04:32,239
he already does but uh

3218
02:04:36,390 --> 02:04:34,079
for those out there

3219
02:04:40,069 --> 02:04:36,400
you know that um

3220
02:04:42,390 --> 02:04:40,079
uh don't know about this story

3221
02:04:44,470 --> 02:04:42,400
and and what uh

3222
02:04:46,390 --> 02:04:44,480
and relationships like this that can

3223
02:04:49,910 --> 02:04:46,400
develop they don't they don't have any

3224
02:04:54,229 --> 02:04:49,920
idea and it is it is touching

3225
02:04:56,229 --> 02:04:54,239
uh for sure um but uh the glag

3226
02:04:57,910 --> 02:04:56,239
glag is cool that's all that's all i

3227
02:05:01,270 --> 02:04:57,920
gotta say glad is cool and he's got his

3228
02:05:03,350 --> 02:05:01,280
fans out there now um

3229
02:05:05,669 --> 02:05:03,360
gleg is like the kwai chang kane from

3230
02:05:08,069 --> 02:05:05,679
the old kung fu tv series no the

3231
02:05:10,709 --> 02:05:08,079
sasquatch world he roams the hills

3232
02:05:12,790 --> 02:05:10,719
riding wrongs fighting evil bad guys

3233
02:05:15,270 --> 02:05:12,800
beating down grizzly bears saving dumb

3234
02:05:17,990 --> 02:05:15,280
humans from forest fires it's his job

3235
02:05:19,589 --> 02:05:18,000
yeah yeah yeah it's it's it's such an

3236
02:05:20,390 --> 02:05:19,599
amazing story

3237
02:05:21,350 --> 02:05:20,400
so

3238
02:05:24,390 --> 02:05:21,360
um

3239
02:05:27,270 --> 02:05:24,400
uh okay so where do we leave off okay

3240
02:05:29,830 --> 02:05:27,280
sort of okay now

3241
02:05:31,030 --> 02:05:29,840
uh two years go by a couple of seasons

3242
02:05:34,709 --> 02:05:31,040
go by

3243
02:05:36,629 --> 02:05:34,719
distance is there glag is by himself uh

3244
02:05:40,069 --> 02:05:36,639
for most of the time he's waiting for

3245
02:05:40,870 --> 02:05:40,079
his bro right uh kevin to come and visit

3246
02:05:42,709 --> 02:05:40,880
and

3247
02:05:45,350 --> 02:05:42,719
uh glad

3248
02:05:46,870 --> 02:05:45,360
glad it's sad

3249
02:05:48,470 --> 02:05:46,880
well gallagher said because he doesn't

3250
02:05:50,550 --> 02:05:48,480
have anybody to hang around with him

3251
02:05:52,149 --> 02:05:50,560
except kevin and kevin progressively can

3252
02:05:54,310 --> 02:05:52,159
get there less and less

3253
02:05:55,350 --> 02:05:54,320
and uh you know it at some point it

3254
02:05:56,950 --> 02:05:55,360
became

3255
02:05:58,550 --> 02:05:56,960
where it'd be only like every other

3256
02:05:59,910 --> 02:05:58,560
couple weeks he could get up there and

3257
02:06:01,189 --> 02:05:59,920
stop he could just imagine what it was

3258
02:06:03,189 --> 02:06:01,199
like for this guy being up there by

3259
02:06:05,030 --> 02:06:03,199
himself all the time right and

3260
02:06:07,350 --> 02:06:05,040
apparently at some point

3261
02:06:09,030 --> 02:06:07,360
he found another group up there that at

3262
02:06:10,069 --> 02:06:09,040
least some of them he could get along

3263
02:06:11,910 --> 02:06:10,079
with

3264
02:06:13,589 --> 02:06:11,920
so there was some kind of interaction

3265
02:06:14,790 --> 02:06:13,599
going on there

3266
02:06:16,709 --> 02:06:14,800
and they weren't

3267
02:06:19,109 --> 02:06:16,719
some of them at least were in hostile

3268
02:06:21,430 --> 02:06:19,119
seems like maybe some of them were too

3269
02:06:23,589 --> 02:06:21,440
but you know this was a long period of

3270
02:06:25,430 --> 02:06:23,599
about three years where they were having

3271
02:06:26,550 --> 02:06:25,440
as much contact as kevin could get up

3272
02:06:29,109 --> 02:06:26,560
there and do it during the summer that

3273
02:06:30,629 --> 02:06:29,119
was a lot during the winter not so much

3274
02:06:32,709 --> 02:06:30,639
because then you're leaving a snowmobile

3275
02:06:33,589 --> 02:06:32,719
path right up there for anybody to

3276
02:06:35,669 --> 02:06:33,599
follow

3277
02:06:37,510 --> 02:06:35,679
so that's risky too you know and he was

3278
02:06:39,990 --> 02:06:37,520
thinking about that kind of stuff

3279
02:06:42,550 --> 02:06:40,000
um so eventually

3280
02:06:43,990 --> 02:06:42,560
uh you know long long long long story

3281
02:06:46,390 --> 02:06:44,000
short there's a couple parts of this

3282
02:06:47,990 --> 02:06:46,400
saga that are just talking about all the

3283
02:06:50,229 --> 02:06:48,000
interaction and adventures and different

3284
02:06:51,990 --> 02:06:50,239
stuff they did and some of it's very

3285
02:06:54,229 --> 02:06:52,000
revealing like when he talks about how

3286
02:06:56,229 --> 02:06:54,239
they found a cave they wanted to go in

3287
02:06:57,750 --> 02:06:56,239
and check out a cave they didn't have a

3288
02:07:00,149 --> 02:06:57,760
flashlight with them

3289
02:07:01,990 --> 02:07:00,159
and so he just let glad lead the way it

3290
02:07:02,950 --> 02:07:02,000
would become immediately apparent to him

3291
02:07:04,870 --> 02:07:02,960
that

3292
02:07:06,069 --> 02:07:04,880
glad could see him pitch black

3293
02:07:07,510 --> 02:07:06,079
because they didn't have to go very far

3294
02:07:08,790 --> 02:07:07,520
in this cave and kevin couldn't see

3295
02:07:10,550 --> 02:07:08,800
anything he was stumbling all over the

3296
02:07:12,550 --> 02:07:10,560
place and he had to stay right behind

3297
02:07:13,990 --> 02:07:12,560
glad and basically keep his hand on him

3298
02:07:15,910 --> 02:07:14,000
to figure out where he was going glad

3299
02:07:17,189 --> 02:07:15,920
seemed to be able to see perfectly well

3300
02:07:19,350 --> 02:07:17,199
and there's a debate in the bigfoot

3301
02:07:20,790 --> 02:07:19,360
community about them having

3302
02:07:22,310 --> 02:07:20,800
improvision being able to see in the

3303
02:07:23,589 --> 02:07:22,320
infrared spectrum

3304
02:07:26,149 --> 02:07:23,599
or you know some of them say well

3305
02:07:28,390 --> 02:07:26,159
they've seen eye glow not just eye shine

3306
02:07:29,830 --> 02:07:28,400
no actual light hitting their eyes but

3307
02:07:31,830 --> 02:07:29,840
yet they're glowing

3308
02:07:34,069 --> 02:07:31,840
um and again kevin was right with him

3309
02:07:37,270 --> 02:07:34,079
this that's not what was going on there

3310
02:07:39,109 --> 02:07:37,280
was no eye glow there was no eye shine

3311
02:07:41,109 --> 02:07:39,119
he didn't have a lighter a flashlight or

3312
02:07:42,709 --> 02:07:41,119
anything with them yet glad could see

3313
02:07:44,470 --> 02:07:42,719
perfectly well

3314
02:07:46,069 --> 02:07:44,480
and now we've been thinking about this

3315
02:07:48,390 --> 02:07:46,079
for years and we know they have very

3316
02:07:50,149 --> 02:07:48,400
interesting vocal capabilities because

3317
02:07:51,910 --> 02:07:50,159
we've got recordings of them being able

3318
02:07:54,950 --> 02:07:51,920
to emit sounds above and below the

3319
02:07:56,790 --> 02:07:54,960
spectrum we can hear and sometimes when

3320
02:07:59,270 --> 02:07:56,800
they show up in an area every other

3321
02:08:01,030 --> 02:07:59,280
animal shuts up instantly

3322
02:08:02,550 --> 02:08:01,040
okay well for bigger animals you just

3323
02:08:03,750 --> 02:08:02,560
make some kind of a predatory call and

3324
02:08:05,270 --> 02:08:03,760
they'll shut the hell up because they

3325
02:08:07,270 --> 02:08:05,280
don't want to get they're not you know

3326
02:08:09,990 --> 02:08:07,280
dinner but how do you do that with the

3327
02:08:11,750 --> 02:08:10,000
little animals crickets mice things like

3328
02:08:14,069 --> 02:08:11,760
that all the little bugs will shut up

3329
02:08:16,069 --> 02:08:14,079
too well guess what they're listening to

3330
02:08:17,830 --> 02:08:16,079
things in the hypersonic range that's

3331
02:08:20,149 --> 02:08:17,840
where they communicate at

3332
02:08:22,229 --> 02:08:20,159
like dog whistle range

3333
02:08:23,430 --> 02:08:22,239
so if you can emit a sound at that range

3334
02:08:25,270 --> 02:08:23,440
that's really loud to them they're all

3335
02:08:28,229 --> 02:08:25,280
going to hear it and shut up

3336
02:08:29,750 --> 02:08:28,239
but your intended target doesn't hear it

3337
02:08:31,430 --> 02:08:29,760
they just notice everything suddenly

3338
02:08:33,910 --> 02:08:31,440
went deathly silent

3339
02:08:35,270 --> 02:08:33,920
so the question here is can the echo

3340
02:08:38,470 --> 02:08:35,280
locate

3341
02:08:41,270 --> 02:08:38,480
using this capability like a batch

3342
02:08:42,550 --> 02:08:41,280
exactly like a bat right and you know

3343
02:08:43,990 --> 02:08:42,560
kevin being with him wouldn't have heard

3344
02:08:47,109 --> 02:08:44,000
it he could just been putting out little

3345
02:08:49,270 --> 02:08:47,119
clicks and and radar mapping the cave

3346
02:08:51,589 --> 02:08:49,280
is that even possible well here's an

3347
02:08:53,669 --> 02:08:51,599
interesting parallel there is a

3348
02:08:54,550 --> 02:08:53,679
completely blind guy who can mountain

3349
02:08:57,350 --> 02:08:54,560
bike

3350
02:08:59,270 --> 02:08:57,360
i've seen that that guy is incredible he

3351
02:09:02,550 --> 02:08:59,280
does it he clicks

3352
02:09:04,149 --> 02:09:02,560
yes and if a human can learn to do that

3353
02:09:06,550 --> 02:09:04,159
imagine how much time they spend

3354
02:09:07,910 --> 02:09:06,560
underground without a flashlight and how

3355
02:09:09,430 --> 02:09:07,920
long do you think it would take them to

3356
02:09:10,870 --> 02:09:09,440
figure it out

3357
02:09:13,669 --> 02:09:10,880
you're right i've seen that guy ride

3358
02:09:17,350 --> 02:09:13,679
that bike all over city streets mountain

3359
02:09:18,629 --> 02:09:17,360
biking and click his way through uh an

3360
02:09:20,390 --> 02:09:18,639
environment

3361
02:09:21,990 --> 02:09:20,400
yeah yeah the other thing is we picked

3362
02:09:24,149 --> 02:09:22,000
this up on some of the videos that

3363
02:09:26,069 --> 02:09:24,159
researchers have done where they know

3364
02:09:27,750 --> 02:09:26,079
that they're they're surrounded by them

3365
02:09:29,109 --> 02:09:27,760
and you listen to the audio and you can

3366
02:09:30,629 --> 02:09:29,119
pull out sounds that they're making in

3367
02:09:32,470 --> 02:09:30,639
the background there's a really fabulous

3368
02:09:34,069 --> 02:09:32,480
channel by a guy called bigfoot

3369
02:09:36,149 --> 02:09:34,079
anthropologist and that's one of the

3370
02:09:37,830 --> 02:09:36,159
things he does he'll take these video

3371
02:09:39,910 --> 02:09:37,840
recordings and he'll listen to the audio

3372
02:09:42,149 --> 02:09:39,920
in the background and he'll take out all

3373
02:09:44,790 --> 02:09:42,159
the background noises the wind people

3374
02:09:46,390 --> 02:09:44,800
talking any extraneous noises and what's

3375
02:09:48,069 --> 02:09:46,400
left and he listens to those

3376
02:09:49,189 --> 02:09:48,079
and there's this clicking and popping

3377
02:09:51,270 --> 02:09:49,199
all the time

3378
02:09:53,109 --> 02:09:51,280
and especially in the dark they're

3379
02:09:55,990 --> 02:09:53,119
maneuvering around in the dark by using

3380
02:09:57,350 --> 02:09:56,000
this echolocation to map the area

3381
02:09:59,589 --> 02:09:57,360
so they can walk around completely

3382
02:10:01,350 --> 02:09:59,599
silently and pitch black

3383
02:10:02,950 --> 02:10:01,360
makes sense

3384
02:10:08,390 --> 02:10:02,960
right

3385
02:10:10,149 --> 02:10:08,400
that of course it would make

3386
02:10:12,229 --> 02:10:10,159
make perfect sense i said what happens

3387
02:10:13,990 --> 02:10:12,239
in this cave with uh kevin well

3388
02:10:15,350 --> 02:10:14,000
apparently glad went into the point

3389
02:10:16,790 --> 02:10:15,360
where kevin was afraid he was going to

3390
02:10:18,229 --> 02:10:16,800
fall down a bottomless pit or something

3391
02:10:19,990 --> 02:10:18,239
because he couldn't see anything he was

3392
02:10:21,910 --> 02:10:20,000
like being in deep space with no stars

3393
02:10:23,589 --> 02:10:21,920
around and he finally just told greg

3394
02:10:25,589 --> 02:10:23,599
let's you know let's go back i can't see

3395
02:10:27,109 --> 02:10:25,599
anything buddy and glad turned around

3396
02:10:28,390 --> 02:10:27,119
and of course he couldn't see glad and

3397
02:10:30,709 --> 02:10:28,400
he couldn't see any high glow or

3398
02:10:32,229 --> 02:10:30,719
anything and then he had to have glad

3399
02:10:33,430 --> 02:10:32,239
lead the way back out again and hold on

3400
02:10:35,189 --> 02:10:33,440
to him to make sure that he didn't fall

3401
02:10:36,149 --> 02:10:35,199
down a bottomless shaft or something

3402
02:10:37,109 --> 02:10:36,159
because he couldn't see where he was

3403
02:10:38,470 --> 02:10:37,119
going

3404
02:10:39,750 --> 02:10:38,480
and now they made it back out again then

3405
02:10:41,350 --> 02:10:39,760
kevin decided that's kind of like yeah

3406
02:10:42,870 --> 02:10:41,360
i'm not going to go do that

3407
02:10:44,790 --> 02:10:42,880
cave thing unless i got a flashlight

3408
02:10:46,229 --> 02:10:44,800
with me again that was kind of stupid

3409
02:10:47,750 --> 02:10:46,239
even though i got a bulldozer for a

3410
02:10:49,830 --> 02:10:47,760
friend with me and i think glasgow was

3411
02:10:51,510 --> 02:10:49,840
like nine foot tall at that point so

3412
02:10:53,669 --> 02:10:51,520
you're fairly confident whatever you run

3413
02:10:55,189 --> 02:10:53,679
to in the cave he can take care of it

3414
02:10:57,270 --> 02:10:55,199
but you're in the dark while it's going

3415
02:10:59,350 --> 02:10:57,280
on you have no idea what's happening so

3416
02:11:03,189 --> 02:10:59,360
again not a good idea

3417
02:11:05,430 --> 02:11:03,199
so um there's this moment uh when kevin

3418
02:11:08,390 --> 02:11:05,440
uh heads back up and

3419
02:11:11,430 --> 02:11:08,400
uh he goes uh to their little meeting

3420
02:11:14,229 --> 02:11:11,440
spot the meeting cave and and all of his

3421
02:11:16,470 --> 02:11:14,239
stuff is there right all of the gifts

3422
02:11:20,950 --> 02:11:16,480
and things that he had given to glad

3423
02:11:22,709 --> 02:11:20,960
over the uh previous three or so years

3424
02:11:24,310 --> 02:11:22,719
tell us about that we got to back up

3425
02:11:26,310 --> 02:11:24,320
because before that happened here's

3426
02:11:27,910 --> 02:11:26,320
here's what leads up to it he was up

3427
02:11:30,229 --> 02:11:27,920
there visiting with glad and glad was

3428
02:11:32,709 --> 02:11:30,239
very excited and nervous

3429
02:11:34,629 --> 02:11:32,719
and had obviously something was going on

3430
02:11:37,430 --> 02:11:34,639
and kevin wasn't sure what it was

3431
02:11:39,109 --> 02:11:37,440
and he brought out this young female

3432
02:11:41,430 --> 02:11:39,119
sasquatch stepped out from behind the

3433
02:11:43,350 --> 02:11:41,440
tree let them see her she was very shy

3434
02:11:45,189 --> 02:11:43,360
and like you know humans aren't supposed

3435
02:11:47,109 --> 02:11:45,199
to see me why am i doing this i like you

3436
02:11:49,270 --> 02:11:47,119
and everything but this is crazy he let

3437
02:11:50,550 --> 02:11:49,280
me you know he let a human see me

3438
02:11:52,550 --> 02:11:50,560
um so

3439
02:11:53,589 --> 02:11:52,560
he you know basically in in his way and

3440
02:11:55,669 --> 02:11:53,599
at that point he had fairly good

3441
02:11:57,750 --> 02:11:55,679
communication skills with kevin you know

3442
02:11:59,750 --> 02:11:57,760
he explained that was his girlfriend

3443
02:12:02,229 --> 02:11:59,760
and at this point you know again keep in

3444
02:12:04,069 --> 02:12:02,239
mind he's like

3445
02:12:07,030 --> 02:12:04,079
uh

3446
02:12:08,310 --> 02:12:07,040
maybe nine years old so this isn't like

3447
02:12:09,589 --> 02:12:08,320
you know mating for life or anything

3448
02:12:11,750 --> 02:12:09,599
it's like i found somebody else's

3449
02:12:13,270 --> 02:12:11,760
sasquatch it'll put up with me

3450
02:12:15,109 --> 02:12:13,280
because i hang around with a human i'm

3451
02:12:16,310 --> 02:12:15,119
weird

3452
02:12:17,830 --> 02:12:16,320
and uh

3453
02:12:19,350 --> 02:12:17,840
shortly after that

3454
02:12:21,669 --> 02:12:19,360
i think it was the next time he was out

3455
02:12:23,109 --> 02:12:21,679
there or maybe it was the next day

3456
02:12:24,390 --> 02:12:23,119
um you guys will have to go back and

3457
02:12:26,550 --> 02:12:24,400
listen to the show because i can't

3458
02:12:27,669 --> 02:12:26,560
remember we recorded this years ago

3459
02:12:28,870 --> 02:12:27,679
um

3460
02:12:30,870 --> 02:12:28,880
he was there with glad and glad was

3461
02:12:32,550 --> 02:12:30,880
getting very nervous

3462
02:12:35,109 --> 02:12:32,560
and kevin couldn't understand what had

3463
02:12:37,109 --> 02:12:35,119
him so agitated and then all of a sudden

3464
02:12:39,270 --> 02:12:37,119
abruptly he heard this noise

3465
02:12:40,870 --> 02:12:39,280
and glad grabbed him by the forearm and

3466
02:12:42,709 --> 02:12:40,880
ran up a tree

3467
02:12:43,990 --> 02:12:42,719
with him holding him in one hand by the

3468
02:12:45,510 --> 02:12:44,000
forearm

3469
02:12:47,589 --> 02:12:45,520
and tried to put him on one of the top

3470
02:12:49,270 --> 02:12:47,599
branches this immediately dislocated

3471
02:12:51,189 --> 02:12:49,280
kevin's shoulder right

3472
02:12:52,950 --> 02:12:51,199
because human arms aren't built to hold

3473
02:12:54,310 --> 02:12:52,960
your entire weight we're not strong

3474
02:12:55,830 --> 02:12:54,320
enough to do that

3475
02:12:57,589 --> 02:12:55,840
you say a squat tar they can do a chin

3476
02:12:59,430 --> 02:12:57,599
up with one arm we can't do that

3477
02:13:01,030 --> 02:12:59,440
so kevin's like in blazing pain and

3478
02:13:03,430 --> 02:13:01,040
freaking out and why did glad grab my

3479
02:13:05,510 --> 02:13:03,440
arm and yank me up this tree 30 feet and

3480
02:13:07,350 --> 02:13:05,520
glad shinny's down the tree and starts

3481
02:13:08,790 --> 02:13:07,360
to leave and turns around and comes back

3482
02:13:09,910 --> 02:13:08,800
and climbs right up the tree to him and

3483
02:13:12,390 --> 02:13:09,920
looks at him again with his really

3484
02:13:13,270 --> 02:13:12,400
concerned look and says gun

3485
02:13:14,709 --> 02:13:13,280
gun

3486
02:13:16,550 --> 02:13:14,719
and kevin goes yeah i got it right here

3487
02:13:18,390 --> 02:13:16,560
buddy and reaches down to his his waist

3488
02:13:20,069 --> 02:13:18,400
with his other good arm that he could

3489
02:13:22,149 --> 02:13:20,079
actually maneuver with

3490
02:13:23,430 --> 02:13:22,159
and glad goes stay stay here or

3491
02:13:25,430 --> 02:13:23,440
something along those lines and he takes

3492
02:13:26,709 --> 02:13:25,440
off goes back down the tree and goes off

3493
02:13:28,950 --> 02:13:26,719
into the woods

3494
02:13:31,750 --> 02:13:28,960
then after a short interval there's this

3495
02:13:33,030 --> 02:13:31,760
huge racket and he can hear glad arguing

3496
02:13:34,149 --> 02:13:33,040
with something

3497
02:13:35,589 --> 02:13:34,159
and there's a bunch of yelling and

3498
02:13:37,430 --> 02:13:35,599
shouting going back and forth and he

3499
02:13:39,990 --> 02:13:37,440
doesn't understand what they're saying

3500
02:13:42,629 --> 02:13:40,000
and finally at some point glad yelled no

3501
02:13:44,470 --> 02:13:42,639
and then according to him

3502
02:13:46,069 --> 02:13:44,480
just hell broke loose and i had him

3503
02:13:48,149 --> 02:13:46,079
describe this to me like three or four

3504
02:13:49,510 --> 02:13:48,159
times and uh he just pretty much broke

3505
02:13:51,350 --> 02:13:49,520
down every time it was hard for him to

3506
02:13:53,109 --> 02:13:51,360
describe it but he said it was just the

3507
02:13:54,950 --> 02:13:53,119
most hellacious racket you've ever heard

3508
02:13:56,790 --> 02:13:54,960
it sounded like uh you know three

3509
02:13:58,149 --> 02:13:56,800
bulldozers battling each other out in

3510
02:14:00,069 --> 02:13:58,159
this field everything was getting torn

3511
02:14:01,270 --> 02:14:00,079
to hell trees getting ripped down and

3512
02:14:03,109 --> 02:14:01,280
the whole thing

3513
02:14:05,030 --> 02:14:03,119
and then apparently glad won because

3514
02:14:06,470 --> 02:14:05,040
after a while he came back

3515
02:14:07,910 --> 02:14:06,480
and he couldn't even help kevin get out

3516
02:14:09,830 --> 02:14:07,920
of the tree he just slumped down at the

3517
02:14:12,470 --> 02:14:09,840
base of it and kevin had to climb down

3518
02:14:13,910 --> 02:14:12,480
the tree with only one good arm and

3519
02:14:15,669 --> 02:14:13,920
tried to console his buddy and see if he

3520
02:14:18,310 --> 02:14:15,679
was okay he said he had bruises all over

3521
02:14:19,750 --> 02:14:18,320
him and he was just exhausted

3522
02:14:21,109 --> 02:14:19,760
and then kevin had the hellacious

3523
02:14:22,709 --> 02:14:21,119
problem of uh

3524
02:14:24,310 --> 02:14:22,719
i'm in the middle of nowhere and i got a

3525
02:14:26,310 --> 02:14:24,320
dislocated arm and i have to ride a

3526
02:14:27,910 --> 02:14:26,320
mountain bike back out of here again

3527
02:14:32,069 --> 02:14:27,920
that's going to take me most of a day to

3528
02:14:34,390 --> 02:14:32,079
do it this is going to suck really bad

3529
02:14:36,229 --> 02:14:34,400
so apparently what happened is that that

3530
02:14:38,390 --> 02:14:36,239
group decided that they didn't want glad

3531
02:14:39,990 --> 02:14:38,400
interacting with

3532
02:14:41,589 --> 02:14:40,000
their sister you know some other member

3533
02:14:43,109 --> 02:14:41,599
of the group we don't know

3534
02:14:44,229 --> 02:14:43,119
we're assuming it was that group it

3535
02:14:46,229 --> 02:14:44,239
could have been some other cryptid

3536
02:14:48,390 --> 02:14:46,239
entirely we just have no way of knowing

3537
02:14:50,790 --> 02:14:48,400
kevin never saw him he didn't have a

3538
02:14:52,149 --> 02:14:50,800
clear enough definition on any of the

3539
02:14:54,069 --> 02:14:52,159
sounds he said it all sounded like

3540
02:14:55,510 --> 02:14:54,079
something sasquatch could have done so

3541
02:14:57,030 --> 02:14:55,520
sound wise there was no way to tell it

3542
02:14:59,430 --> 02:14:57,040
was anything else

3543
02:15:01,430 --> 02:14:59,440
but um that was uh

3544
02:15:02,629 --> 02:15:01,440
that was kind of the the end for that

3545
02:15:04,870 --> 02:15:02,639
for a while

3546
02:15:06,390 --> 02:15:04,880
um kevin healed up his arm and stuff and

3547
02:15:07,270 --> 02:15:06,400
came back again

3548
02:15:09,430 --> 02:15:07,280
and

3549
02:15:12,069 --> 02:15:09,440
it met gleg i think he met glad one more

3550
02:15:14,069 --> 02:15:12,079
time and then after that um

3551
02:15:15,830 --> 02:15:14,079
glad showed him the the young female

3552
02:15:17,350 --> 02:15:15,840
again and you know like yeah i'm gonna

3553
02:15:19,750 --> 02:15:17,360
hang out with her now

3554
02:15:21,109 --> 02:15:19,760
and uh when kevin came up all the stuff

3555
02:15:23,109 --> 02:15:21,119
that he had given glad over the years

3556
02:15:24,790 --> 02:15:23,119
was in that intermediate cave

3557
02:15:27,189 --> 02:15:24,800
including things that he didn't think

3558
02:15:29,030 --> 02:15:27,199
clag was saving like you know several

3559
02:15:31,109 --> 02:15:29,040
popped rubber red rubber balls that they

3560
02:15:33,270 --> 02:15:31,119
had played before

3561
02:15:36,550 --> 02:15:33,280
glad still had for some reason it was

3562
02:15:40,069 --> 02:15:36,560
all memorability of his buddy kevin

3563
02:15:43,109 --> 02:15:40,079
i remember uh my friends telling me this

3564
02:15:45,589 --> 02:15:43,119
part of the story and i'm looking around

3565
02:15:48,069 --> 02:15:45,599
my dinner table and everybody's crying

3566
02:15:50,310 --> 02:15:48,079
right i mean it was just like

3567
02:15:52,790 --> 02:15:50,320
you know this emotional thing it was the

3568
02:15:56,229 --> 02:15:52,800
red balls that they were playing with

3569
02:15:58,709 --> 02:15:56,239
and and glad brought those back how did

3570
02:16:01,990 --> 02:15:58,719
how did kevin take it

3571
02:16:04,229 --> 02:16:02,000
really hard yeah that was um

3572
02:16:06,069 --> 02:16:04,239
that was his best friend basically right

3573
02:16:07,750 --> 02:16:06,079
you know it was like he had he blamed

3574
02:16:09,030 --> 02:16:07,760
himself a bunch because he just hadn't

3575
02:16:10,950 --> 02:16:09,040
had the time

3576
02:16:11,669 --> 02:16:10,960
to get up there and and hang out with

3577
02:16:12,870 --> 02:16:11,679
him

3578
02:16:13,990 --> 02:16:12,880
and you know at this point he was

3579
02:16:15,589 --> 02:16:14,000
getting out of high school and he was

3580
02:16:17,189 --> 02:16:15,599
ready to leave go away for college and

3581
02:16:18,870 --> 02:16:17,199
everything too so

3582
02:16:20,390 --> 02:16:18,880
you know it's like well you know part of

3583
02:16:21,510 --> 02:16:20,400
this is my fault because i haven't been

3584
02:16:23,589 --> 02:16:21,520
up here enough and he's got to have

3585
02:16:25,910 --> 02:16:23,599
somebody to hang around with but on the

3586
02:16:27,510 --> 02:16:25,920
other hand i wanted him to actually go

3587
02:16:29,430 --> 02:16:27,520
back and be with his own people and be

3588
02:16:32,469 --> 02:16:29,440
safe of course and it seems like that's

3589
02:16:33,910 --> 02:16:32,479
what he's doing so i'm happy for him and

3590
02:16:35,509 --> 02:16:33,920
then uh

3591
02:16:38,549 --> 02:16:35,519
kevin didn't have any contact with glad

3592
02:16:40,469 --> 02:16:38,559
for you know 30 years after that

3593
02:16:42,150 --> 02:16:40,479
did you say 30

3594
02:16:43,750 --> 02:16:42,160
yep okay

3595
02:16:47,030 --> 02:16:43,760
um

3596
02:16:50,790 --> 02:16:47,040
let's keep going okay so

3597
02:16:52,950 --> 02:16:50,800
they part ways and and kevin is as rough

3598
02:16:55,270 --> 02:16:52,960
as this is to here

3599
02:16:57,589 --> 02:16:55,280
and for kevin to go through

3600
02:16:59,429 --> 02:16:57,599
glad's got to go and do his own thing

3601
02:17:00,870 --> 02:16:59,439
right black's not going to go and work

3602
02:17:02,709 --> 02:17:00,880
at costco

3603
02:17:04,230 --> 02:17:02,719
and be kevin's room

3604
02:17:05,509 --> 02:17:04,240
kevin's got to go off to college and

3605
02:17:07,349 --> 02:17:05,519
he's got to get his degree and that's

3606
02:17:08,870 --> 02:17:07,359
out of state and you know it'll be a

3607
02:17:11,429 --> 02:17:08,880
couple years before he can even get back

3608
02:17:13,190 --> 02:17:11,439
and go see if glad's there which he did

3609
02:17:14,469 --> 02:17:13,200
and glad was never back there again he

3610
02:17:16,790 --> 02:17:14,479
went back several times and tried to

3611
02:17:18,469 --> 02:17:16,800
find him and glad wasn't back there

3612
02:17:19,990 --> 02:17:18,479
um and so he just figured you know that

3613
02:17:21,429 --> 02:17:20,000
was that was the last farewell he went

3614
02:17:23,349 --> 02:17:21,439
off to be with his people now he's not

3615
02:17:24,950 --> 02:17:23,359
allowed to be with humans he left all

3616
02:17:27,270 --> 02:17:24,960
all the toys that we played with when he

3617
02:17:28,629 --> 02:17:27,280
was a kid for me to take care of and

3618
02:17:29,990 --> 02:17:28,639
i'll probably never see him again and

3619
02:17:31,910 --> 02:17:30,000
then kevin moved down to the south he

3620
02:17:33,509 --> 02:17:31,920
lived in missouri and

3621
02:17:35,110 --> 02:17:33,519
over in the desert states for years and

3622
02:17:36,469 --> 02:17:35,120
years and years and years

3623
02:17:38,070 --> 02:17:36,479
as a matter of fact he was living in

3624
02:17:39,429 --> 02:17:38,080
arkansas when he died he was way down

3625
02:17:42,230 --> 02:17:39,439
south

3626
02:17:43,830 --> 02:17:42,240
but at some point he uh you know he got

3627
02:17:44,870 --> 02:17:43,840
involved with the bigfoot community

3628
02:17:46,469 --> 02:17:44,880
again

3629
02:17:48,549 --> 02:17:46,479
he told me his story and i want to

3630
02:17:50,230 --> 02:17:48,559
stress that he did not ever want to tell

3631
02:17:51,910 --> 02:17:50,240
this story publicly

3632
02:17:53,669 --> 02:17:51,920
he told it to me privately because he

3633
02:17:54,950 --> 02:17:53,679
wanted to get it off his chest before he

3634
02:17:57,110 --> 02:17:54,960
died

3635
02:18:00,070 --> 02:17:57,120
that somebody would hear this story that

3636
02:18:03,589 --> 02:18:00,080
might understand it would ridicule him

3637
02:18:05,910 --> 02:18:03,599
and then i pestered him for two months

3638
02:18:07,750 --> 02:18:05,920
this story is too good you know it's

3639
02:18:09,910 --> 02:18:07,760
true you've got to tell this to the rest

3640
02:18:12,070 --> 02:18:09,920
of the world this is super important

3641
02:18:13,910 --> 02:18:12,080
this is the longest term

3642
02:18:17,190 --> 02:18:13,920
interaction between a human and a

3643
02:18:19,190 --> 02:18:17,200
sasquatch that anyone has ever heard of

3644
02:18:20,469 --> 02:18:19,200
and i'm 100 convinced you're telling me

3645
02:18:22,309 --> 02:18:20,479
a true story

3646
02:18:23,910 --> 02:18:22,319
so please please please come on and tell

3647
02:18:25,429 --> 02:18:23,920
the story and he's like dude that it's

3648
02:18:26,469 --> 02:18:25,439
like five years

3649
02:18:28,870 --> 02:18:26,479
you know how many shows that's going to

3650
02:18:30,950 --> 02:18:28,880
take and well i don't care let's do it

3651
02:18:32,870 --> 02:18:30,960
so we did it and it was yeah

3652
02:18:34,709 --> 02:18:32,880
ridiculously popular at the time that it

3653
02:18:35,990 --> 02:18:34,719
was coming out and everybody wanted to

3654
02:18:37,589 --> 02:18:36,000
meet kevin they wanted to go to

3655
02:18:39,509 --> 02:18:37,599
conventions they wanted to talk with him

3656
02:18:40,950 --> 02:18:39,519
and stuff so his time was at a premium

3657
02:18:42,870 --> 02:18:40,960
after that

3658
02:18:44,150 --> 02:18:42,880
and he did a lot of that stuff and

3659
02:18:46,150 --> 02:18:44,160
everybody that met him and went out and

3660
02:18:49,030 --> 02:18:46,160
did the bigfoot research with him or

3661
02:18:50,309 --> 02:18:49,040
something i'll vouch for him 100

3662
02:18:52,230 --> 02:18:50,319
and then uh

3663
02:18:54,070 --> 02:18:52,240
he he ended up getting in contact with a

3664
02:18:56,070 --> 02:18:54,080
couple people in the sasquatch community

3665
02:18:57,990 --> 02:18:56,080
that went you know kevin these these

3666
02:18:59,030 --> 02:18:58,000
guys are psychic they all have mind

3667
02:19:00,469 --> 02:18:59,040
speak

3668
02:19:02,309 --> 02:19:00,479
it may have been that glad was too

3669
02:19:04,950 --> 02:19:02,319
little when you knew him and he didn't

3670
02:19:06,709 --> 02:19:04,960
know how to do it

3671
02:19:09,190 --> 02:19:06,719
but i bet he knows how to do it now

3672
02:19:10,790 --> 02:19:09,200
would you like us to try and contact him

3673
02:19:11,990 --> 02:19:10,800
and he's like well sure you know see you

3674
02:19:13,830 --> 02:19:12,000
can find out

3675
02:19:15,349 --> 02:19:13,840
well two of them came back to him and

3676
02:19:17,349 --> 02:19:15,359
said yeah we got in contact with glad

3677
02:19:18,790 --> 02:19:17,359
and he's like ah sure right he did okay

3678
02:19:21,589 --> 02:19:18,800
tell me something that i didn't tell my

3679
02:19:23,110 --> 02:19:21,599
story they both told him several things

3680
02:19:25,349 --> 02:19:23,120
he didn't tell the story that absolutely

3681
02:19:26,629 --> 02:19:25,359
happened so that really freaked him out

3682
02:19:27,750 --> 02:19:26,639
and he's like well they could be you

3683
02:19:29,349 --> 02:19:27,760
know

3684
02:19:30,950 --> 02:19:29,359
channeling spirits or something and

3685
02:19:33,509 --> 02:19:30,960
whatever i don't know if it's absolutely

3686
02:19:36,389 --> 02:19:33,519
going to be glad or whatnot

3687
02:19:38,469 --> 02:19:36,399
and then uh well let me let me ask you a

3688
02:19:39,270 --> 02:19:38,479
question especially before we get to the

3689
02:19:42,629 --> 02:19:39,280
break

3690
02:19:45,110 --> 02:19:42,639
um you're in montana now but this glad

3691
02:19:48,469 --> 02:19:45,120
story takes place where

3692
02:19:50,309 --> 02:19:48,479
idaho about maybe 200 miles away from me

3693
02:19:53,510 --> 02:19:50,319
so not very long distance according to

3694
02:19:57,190 --> 02:19:53,520
sasquatch mileage because i i

3695
02:19:58,870 --> 02:19:57,200
i was listening uh to you and kevin

3696
02:20:00,790 --> 02:19:58,880
right you guys are talking kevin's on

3697
02:20:02,630 --> 02:20:00,800
the phone kevin's like yeah man i'm

3698
02:20:04,469 --> 02:20:02,640
coming back to idaho

3699
02:20:07,670 --> 02:20:04,479
and i

3700
02:20:09,190 --> 02:20:07,680
stopped listening at that point i was

3701
02:20:11,190 --> 02:20:09,200
listening to you guys talk back and

3702
02:20:14,150 --> 02:20:11,200
forth that you had asked kevin

3703
02:20:16,230 --> 02:20:14,160
uh uh i'm paraphrasing here

3704
02:20:18,070 --> 02:20:16,240
um are you coming back he said yes i'm

3705
02:20:20,469 --> 02:20:18,080
coming back to idaho

3706
02:20:22,230 --> 02:20:20,479
so without giving away the location or

3707
02:20:25,429 --> 02:20:22,240
anything like that but kevin was

3708
02:20:28,469 --> 02:20:25,439
traveling from where back to idaho

3709
02:20:30,150 --> 02:20:28,479
uh arkansas and it ended up that he did

3710
02:20:31,670 --> 02:20:30,160
not make it all the way back to idaho he

3711
02:20:33,590 --> 02:20:31,680
never made it back there

3712
02:20:36,150 --> 02:20:33,600
he came up here to montana with me

3713
02:20:37,270 --> 02:20:36,160
because two people from the south were

3714
02:20:38,630 --> 02:20:37,280
going to make the drive all the way up

3715
02:20:39,510 --> 02:20:38,640
here just to go out with my research

3716
02:20:41,590 --> 02:20:39,520
team

3717
02:20:43,110 --> 02:20:41,600
and kevin was like hey can i tag a ride

3718
02:20:44,309 --> 02:20:43,120
with you guys

3719
02:20:46,070 --> 02:20:44,319
i haven't been up there in the big

3720
02:20:48,150 --> 02:20:46,080
timber in 30 years and they're like sure

3721
02:20:50,870 --> 02:20:48,160
you know so he came with them

3722
02:20:53,670 --> 02:20:50,880
and before he left

3723
02:20:54,950 --> 02:20:53,680
he contacted the psychics and uh said

3724
02:20:56,469 --> 02:20:54,960
have you heard anything from glad and

3725
02:20:57,750 --> 02:20:56,479
they said yeah he wants to meet you

3726
02:20:59,030 --> 02:20:57,760
again

3727
02:21:00,309 --> 02:20:59,040
and kevin said well i don't think i'm

3728
02:21:01,190 --> 02:21:00,319
going to get to idaho but i'm going to

3729
02:21:03,510 --> 02:21:01,200
be

3730
02:21:05,270 --> 02:21:03,520
over in western montana

3731
02:21:07,429 --> 02:21:05,280
and i'm going to be at such and such a

3732
02:21:08,950 --> 02:21:07,439
place it's a ghost town which i'm sure

3733
02:21:10,230 --> 02:21:08,960
bigfoot don't know the name of the ghost

3734
02:21:11,030 --> 02:21:10,240
towns

3735
02:21:12,870 --> 02:21:11,040
so

3736
02:21:14,389 --> 02:21:12,880
apparently he had those psychics he

3737
02:21:15,429 --> 02:21:14,399
explained to the psychics where it is in

3738
02:21:17,990 --> 02:21:15,439
relation

3739
02:21:20,469 --> 02:21:18,000
to this whole cluster of there's a town

3740
02:21:22,389 --> 02:21:20,479
here which is kind of peculiar in this

3741
02:21:23,990 --> 02:21:22,399
area because there aren't very many

3742
02:21:26,630 --> 02:21:24,000
towns so they kind of stand up from a

3743
02:21:28,070 --> 02:21:26,640
sasquatch point of view sure uh and

3744
02:21:29,750 --> 02:21:28,080
where in relation to the town was it

3745
02:21:31,030 --> 02:21:29,760
gonna be and there was a ghost town

3746
02:21:32,309 --> 02:21:31,040
there well they like the ghost towns

3747
02:21:33,590 --> 02:21:32,319
they all hang around in those anyway

3748
02:21:35,110 --> 02:21:33,600
they probably have a name for it know

3749
02:21:36,790 --> 02:21:35,120
what it is

3750
02:21:39,429 --> 02:21:36,800
so one of the psychics contacted him

3751
02:21:40,710 --> 02:21:39,439
back and said i talked to glad and glad

3752
02:21:42,790 --> 02:21:40,720
said he's going to be there and meet you

3753
02:21:44,710 --> 02:21:42,800
when you get there and kevin's like yeah

3754
02:21:45,670 --> 02:21:44,720
right whatever wouldn't that be nice you

3755
02:21:47,910 --> 02:21:45,680
know

3756
02:21:49,510 --> 02:21:47,920
so he gets here we drive up there and we

3757
02:21:50,790 --> 02:21:49,520
had so much gear with us we had to go

3758
02:21:52,469 --> 02:21:50,800
back and meet one of the other guys at

3759
02:21:54,630 --> 02:21:52,479
the airports we had to drop off a bunch

3760
02:21:56,070 --> 02:21:54,640
of gear at the ghost town

3761
02:21:57,750 --> 02:21:56,080
and while we're up there you know

3762
02:21:59,910 --> 02:21:57,760
there's a whole selection of old fallen

3763
02:22:01,750 --> 02:21:59,920
download buildings you can stash your

3764
02:22:03,510 --> 02:22:01,760
gear in and we're going over and putting

3765
02:22:04,870 --> 02:22:03,520
it in one of them and i go do you feel

3766
02:22:06,950 --> 02:22:04,880
that and kevin goes yeah there's one of

3767
02:22:08,469 --> 02:22:06,960
them here right now

3768
02:22:11,110 --> 02:22:08,479
you could feel it it was electric it was

3769
02:22:12,630 --> 02:22:11,120
like there was a huge generator near you

3770
02:22:14,389 --> 02:22:12,640
so we took the backpacks and everything

3771
02:22:16,309 --> 02:22:14,399
and we put them in the shack and we said

3772
02:22:18,070 --> 02:22:16,319
okay guys uh we'll be back tomorrow

3773
02:22:20,309 --> 02:22:18,080
don't let the pack rats steal anything

3774
02:22:21,510 --> 02:22:20,319
well we're gone and we took off and we

3775
02:22:22,469 --> 02:22:21,520
came back

3776
02:22:24,710 --> 02:22:22,479
and

3777
02:22:26,950 --> 02:22:24,720
sure enough the next night kevin had the

3778
02:22:29,590 --> 02:22:26,960
same feeling again and this time after

3779
02:22:30,710 --> 02:22:29,600
30 years he realized not only is it a

3780
02:22:32,070 --> 02:22:30,720
bigfoot

3781
02:22:33,910 --> 02:22:32,080
that's glag

3782
02:22:35,990 --> 02:22:33,920
that was glad's presence that he felt

3783
02:22:37,670 --> 02:22:36,000
the night before and glad was back again

3784
02:22:39,349 --> 02:22:37,680
so we're sitting around the campfire

3785
02:22:41,670 --> 02:22:39,359
telling you know bigfoot stories and

3786
02:22:43,750 --> 02:22:41,680
being all big-time adventurer guys he

3787
02:22:45,670 --> 02:22:43,760
goes walking out in the woods by himself

3788
02:22:47,190 --> 02:22:45,680
walks about 150 feet from camp and

3789
02:22:49,110 --> 02:22:47,200
there's glad in the woods waiting for

3790
02:22:51,910 --> 02:22:49,120
him

3791
02:22:54,790 --> 02:22:52,870
uh

3792
02:22:56,389 --> 02:22:54,800
he said he was kind of

3793
02:22:57,990 --> 02:22:56,399
he was at a loss for words he had a

3794
02:22:59,429 --> 02:22:58,000
whole ton of things he wanted to ask him

3795
02:23:01,510 --> 02:22:59,439
and at the moment he was just so shocked

3796
02:23:03,110 --> 02:23:01,520
he couldn't ask him and he asked him a

3797
02:23:04,550 --> 02:23:03,120
few questions and apparently glad had

3798
02:23:07,110 --> 02:23:04,560
his family there with him he has two

3799
02:23:09,190 --> 02:23:07,120
sons they're about 10 feet tall

3800
02:23:11,190 --> 02:23:09,200
one of he actually named after kevin the

3801
02:23:12,630 --> 02:23:11,200
other one's got a traditional sasquatch

3802
02:23:14,469 --> 02:23:12,640
name i would assume

3803
02:23:16,070 --> 02:23:14,479
the young female that he was with years

3804
02:23:18,389 --> 02:23:16,080
before he's still with her that's his

3805
02:23:19,990 --> 02:23:18,399
maid and she's even more shy about being

3806
02:23:21,349 --> 02:23:20,000
around humans glad said she had been

3807
02:23:23,910 --> 02:23:21,359
shot twice

3808
02:23:25,670 --> 02:23:23,920
since uh he she had met kevin

3809
02:23:27,510 --> 02:23:25,680
some you know punk hunters or something

3810
02:23:28,469 --> 02:23:27,520
took a shot this is common bigfoot

3811
02:23:30,389 --> 02:23:28,479
people see something they don't know

3812
02:23:32,550 --> 02:23:30,399
what it is they shoot at them right

3813
02:23:35,349 --> 02:23:32,560
another good reason for them to avoid us

3814
02:23:37,590 --> 02:23:35,359
but one of his two sons had a

3815
02:23:40,389 --> 02:23:37,600
little baby that he said was like that

3816
02:23:42,230 --> 02:23:40,399
barely bigger than uh a toddler human so

3817
02:23:43,910 --> 02:23:42,240
really recently born

3818
02:23:45,750 --> 02:23:43,920
that he showed kevin he was all proud

3819
02:23:47,670 --> 02:23:45,760
and everything

3820
02:23:49,830 --> 02:23:47,680
and he said i asked him i said well how

3821
02:23:50,870 --> 02:23:49,840
much different did glad look and he goes

3822
02:23:52,389 --> 02:23:50,880
well

3823
02:23:54,710 --> 02:23:52,399
pretty much the same he's got mutton

3824
02:23:56,230 --> 02:23:54,720
chops now that would make elvis proud

3825
02:23:58,630 --> 02:23:56,240
but other than that he just got a little

3826
02:24:00,070 --> 02:23:58,640
bit gray and he's bigger

3827
02:24:01,349 --> 02:24:00,080
and i said how much bigger and he goes

3828
02:24:04,150 --> 02:24:01,359
well he got

3829
02:24:06,469 --> 02:24:04,160
a lot bigger a lot

3830
02:24:07,590 --> 02:24:06,479
a lot a lot

3831
02:24:09,670 --> 02:24:07,600
bigger

3832
02:24:12,469 --> 02:24:09,680
i mean what's your estimate

3833
02:24:16,710 --> 02:24:12,479
and he goes well uh his footprint is

3834
02:24:19,349 --> 02:24:16,720
about um 11 inches wide 26.5 inches long

3835
02:24:21,670 --> 02:24:19,359
and i estimate that he was me a couple

3836
02:24:25,590 --> 02:24:21,680
of me plus a little bit more so

3837
02:24:30,389 --> 02:24:27,429
like oh my god

3838
02:24:32,389 --> 02:24:30,399
did does that surprise you you know 14

3839
02:24:34,469 --> 02:24:32,399
feet and that kind of size

3840
02:24:36,790 --> 02:24:34,479
they do get that big occasionally it is

3841
02:24:38,550 --> 02:24:36,800
reported uh blaine tyler that i've had

3842
02:24:39,670 --> 02:24:38,560
on my show accidentally caught one on a

3843
02:24:41,910 --> 02:24:39,680
long pan

3844
02:24:43,750 --> 02:24:41,920
and then went back and filmed right

3845
02:24:45,510 --> 02:24:43,760
where it was at and checked the height

3846
02:24:47,910 --> 02:24:45,520
next to a tree that it was standing next

3847
02:24:49,830 --> 02:24:47,920
to and that thing was between 16 and 17

3848
02:24:51,990 --> 02:24:49,840
feet tall and it was built like a hulk

3849
02:24:53,270 --> 02:24:52,000
this is in northeast ontario and he got

3850
02:24:54,710 --> 02:24:53,280
in on video

3851
02:24:56,790 --> 02:24:54,720
and then when i was looking at his video

3852
02:24:58,630 --> 02:24:56,800
in slow motion i noticed a nice great

3853
02:25:00,630 --> 02:24:58,640
nine footer about 80 feet away from him

3854
02:25:03,030 --> 02:25:00,640
that he hadn't even spotted in the video

3855
02:25:04,710 --> 02:25:03,040
much closer to him watching him as he's

3856
02:25:07,990 --> 02:25:04,720
doing this quick pan off to the left and

3857
02:25:10,230 --> 02:25:08,000
catches this other huge one now

3858
02:25:13,750 --> 02:25:10,240
so you were there uh you were there

3859
02:25:15,349 --> 02:25:13,760
kevin uh what what did you see and and

3860
02:25:17,110 --> 02:25:15,359
well what did you see

3861
02:25:19,590 --> 02:25:17,120
i did not get a chance to see glad

3862
02:25:21,429 --> 02:25:19,600
unfortunately kevin uh

3863
02:25:24,230 --> 02:25:21,439
actually took brent thomas from

3864
02:25:25,990 --> 02:25:24,240
paranormal portal up to see glag and uh

3865
02:25:27,349 --> 02:25:26,000
brent got to see him brent didn't bring

3866
02:25:29,670 --> 02:25:27,359
his glasses with so he got to see a

3867
02:25:31,830 --> 02:25:29,680
towering 14-foot shadow

3868
02:25:33,590 --> 02:25:31,840
right right but he got to see him the

3869
02:25:35,349 --> 02:25:33,600
next day kevin wanted to bring me up to

3870
02:25:36,389 --> 02:25:35,359
meet him and kind of took me away from

3871
02:25:38,150 --> 02:25:36,399
the crowd

3872
02:25:39,750 --> 02:25:38,160
and then two of the other researchers

3873
02:25:40,950 --> 02:25:39,760
tagged along and apparently glad didn't

3874
02:25:42,950 --> 02:25:40,960
trust now

3875
02:25:44,550 --> 02:25:42,960
so when he took me up the hill he would

3876
02:25:46,469 --> 02:25:44,560
he wouldn't come out in the open so

3877
02:25:48,950 --> 02:25:46,479
sadly i have not

3878
02:25:50,469 --> 02:25:48,960
had a chance to see him yet although i

3879
02:25:53,510 --> 02:25:50,479
do hold out hope that at some point in

3880
02:25:55,990 --> 02:25:53,520
the future i might um but yeah brent and

3881
02:25:57,349 --> 02:25:56,000
him and there was one another

3882
02:25:58,950 --> 02:25:57,359
trying to remember which kind of group

3883
02:26:01,750 --> 02:25:58,960
it was

3884
02:26:03,670 --> 02:26:01,760
uh travis saw one of them and i'm not

3885
02:26:06,070 --> 02:26:03,680
sure if it was glad if it was one of his

3886
02:26:07,349 --> 02:26:06,080
kids we think it was one of his kids

3887
02:26:09,110 --> 02:26:07,359
because right next to the ghost town

3888
02:26:10,710 --> 02:26:09,120
where we were there was a little back

3889
02:26:13,750 --> 02:26:10,720
valley down there that we absolutely

3890
02:26:15,590 --> 02:26:13,760
won't go in it's super creepy vibes and

3891
02:26:17,830 --> 02:26:15,600
there's a super haunted shack right up

3892
02:26:20,309 --> 02:26:17,840
on top of the hill above it and for some

3893
02:26:22,550 --> 02:26:20,319
reason these two people in this vw van

3894
02:26:24,150 --> 02:26:22,560
pulled in there late after dark

3895
02:26:26,150 --> 02:26:24,160
and they could hear obviously that they

3896
02:26:27,910 --> 02:26:26,160
were we were not that far like maybe 150

3897
02:26:30,230 --> 02:26:27,920
yards from them but didn't come over and

3898
02:26:32,790 --> 02:26:30,240
say hi or anything just parked there

3899
02:26:34,309 --> 02:26:32,800
so me and michael and travis had walked

3900
02:26:36,309 --> 02:26:34,319
the long way around and went up to this

3901
02:26:38,309 --> 02:26:36,319
really creepy shack

3902
02:26:39,590 --> 02:26:38,319
and i had already left and michael and

3903
02:26:41,270 --> 02:26:39,600
travis were still there travis was

3904
02:26:42,550 --> 02:26:41,280
around the back side of it and he was

3905
02:26:44,870 --> 02:26:42,560
looking down into the valley and he

3906
02:26:46,550 --> 02:26:44,880
could see the lights from their vw van

3907
02:26:49,270 --> 02:26:46,560
and he was watching this huge black

3908
02:26:51,349 --> 02:26:49,280
shadow just inside the forest pokes head

3909
02:26:53,910 --> 02:26:51,359
up and look and then poke back down

3910
02:26:56,150 --> 02:26:53,920
again and then stand up and look

3911
02:26:57,830 --> 02:26:56,160
and poke back down again

3912
02:26:59,190 --> 02:26:57,840
and he turns around behind he says mike

3913
02:27:01,110 --> 02:26:59,200
are you seeing this

3914
02:27:03,270 --> 02:27:01,120
and he realizes mike isn't there he's up

3915
02:27:04,950 --> 02:27:03,280
there by himself watching this at which

3916
02:27:07,670 --> 02:27:04,960
point he decided he had seen enough cool

3917
02:27:09,429 --> 02:27:07,680
things and he came quickly back to camp

3918
02:27:11,110 --> 02:27:09,439
himself now the epilogue to this story

3919
02:27:13,190 --> 02:27:11,120
is at four o'clock in the morning that

3920
02:27:14,389 --> 02:27:13,200
van mysteriously decided to leave in one

3921
02:27:15,990 --> 02:27:14,399
big hurry

3922
02:27:17,270 --> 02:27:16,000
they were bottoming out that thing going

3923
02:27:18,950 --> 02:27:17,280
up that wash

3924
02:27:20,710 --> 02:27:18,960
smashing it up literally you could hear

3925
02:27:21,910 --> 02:27:20,720
them shooting gravel they were peeling

3926
02:27:23,590 --> 02:27:21,920
out of there as fast as they could at

3927
02:27:24,630 --> 02:27:23,600
four o'clock in the morning and i don't

3928
02:27:26,150 --> 02:27:24,640
think they were like trying to get to

3929
02:27:28,790 --> 02:27:26,160
the nearest perkins for breakfast if you

3930
02:27:29,670 --> 02:27:28,800
know what i mean yeah right right so

3931
02:27:31,830 --> 02:27:29,680
um

3932
02:27:33,349 --> 02:27:31,840
how did uh

3933
02:27:36,230 --> 02:27:33,359
how did kevin

3934
02:27:38,630 --> 02:27:36,240
get to say goodbye

3935
02:27:40,070 --> 02:27:38,640
well as far as i know that may not have

3936
02:27:44,150 --> 02:27:40,080
been the last time that he talked to

3937
02:27:46,389 --> 02:27:44,160
glad because after that he was down at

3938
02:27:47,910 --> 02:27:46,399
d sims property and she has him around

3939
02:27:50,070 --> 02:27:47,920
her property he was down there at night

3940
02:27:51,910 --> 02:27:50,080
several times and she had this huge

3941
02:27:54,309 --> 02:27:51,920
female show up

3942
02:27:56,150 --> 02:27:54,319
and kevin said that

3943
02:27:58,150 --> 02:27:56,160
is that grandma and she's like what do

3944
02:27:59,349 --> 02:27:58,160
you mean grandma there's this huge gray

3945
02:28:01,429 --> 02:27:59,359
female

3946
02:28:04,790 --> 02:28:01,439
named grandma

3947
02:28:06,070 --> 02:28:04,800
and you know so anyway long story short

3948
02:28:08,150 --> 02:28:06,080
next thing you know he's back in

3949
02:28:10,070 --> 02:28:08,160
arkansas a couple weeks later grandma

3950
02:28:12,550 --> 02:28:10,080
shows up

3951
02:28:14,309 --> 02:28:12,560
you know so apparently grandma at this

3952
02:28:16,070 --> 02:28:14,319
point is really old and she's forgetting

3953
02:28:18,550 --> 02:28:16,080
you're not supposed to talk to humans

3954
02:28:20,150 --> 02:28:18,560
even ones that know sasquatch are real

3955
02:28:21,830 --> 02:28:20,160
so one night while kevin's out on the

3956
02:28:23,590 --> 02:28:21,840
back porch she just comes handling up

3957
02:28:26,070 --> 02:28:23,600
and starts talking to him

3958
02:28:27,750 --> 02:28:26,080
and tells him that she is actually the

3959
02:28:28,710 --> 02:28:27,760
great aunt of glag

3960
02:28:30,469 --> 02:28:28,720
oh

3961
02:28:31,990 --> 02:28:30,479
and she was huge one of the things that

3962
02:28:33,110 --> 02:28:32,000
freaked out kevin because he's seen a

3963
02:28:34,790 --> 02:28:33,120
bunch of the ones down south and they

3964
02:28:36,630 --> 02:28:34,800
just don't get that big and she's like

3965
02:28:39,030 --> 02:28:36,640
over 10 feet tall which her female dog

3966
02:28:41,349 --> 02:28:39,040
salt is like holy bleep how where did

3967
02:28:43,190 --> 02:28:41,359
you come from well she came from up here

3968
02:28:44,550 --> 02:28:43,200
originally and she moved down there her

3969
02:28:45,830 --> 02:28:44,560
mate was down there so she went down

3970
02:28:47,750 --> 02:28:45,840
there to live with him and now she's

3971
02:28:49,830 --> 02:28:47,760
really really really old and getting

3972
02:28:50,950 --> 02:28:49,840
kind of befuddled and daughtering and

3973
02:28:53,030 --> 02:28:50,960
not remembering you're not supposed to

3974
02:28:54,309 --> 02:28:53,040
talk to humans so she told kevin that

3975
02:28:55,349 --> 02:28:54,319
was you know she was the great aunt of

3976
02:28:57,190 --> 02:28:55,359
glag

3977
02:28:58,630 --> 02:28:57,200
and that he was planning on coming down

3978
02:29:00,469 --> 02:28:58,640
and spending some time with her so he

3979
02:29:02,550 --> 02:29:00,479
would get to see glad again which

3980
02:29:05,030 --> 02:29:02,560
apparently he did although i'm not privy

3981
02:29:07,110 --> 02:29:05,040
to what the conversation was

3982
02:29:08,870 --> 02:29:07,120
now um

3983
02:29:10,309 --> 02:29:08,880
this is a we're going to take a break

3984
02:29:13,270 --> 02:29:10,319
right here but

3985
02:29:16,790 --> 02:29:13,280
um about three years ago a friend of

3986
02:29:18,870 --> 02:29:16,800
mine had this bigfoot sighting

3987
02:29:21,830 --> 02:29:18,880
um i had left

3988
02:29:24,550 --> 02:29:21,840
uh to my hotel about a half hour before

3989
02:29:26,870 --> 02:29:24,560
this happened about 2 30 in the morning

3990
02:29:30,870 --> 02:29:26,880
but anyway there's this big van with the

3991
02:29:33,190 --> 02:29:30,880
extended top on it right big van

3992
02:29:35,190 --> 02:29:33,200
and you know you know i don't know how

3993
02:29:37,429 --> 02:29:35,200
tall that is but you know eight feet to

3994
02:29:39,590 --> 02:29:37,439
the maybe nine feet to the top of the

3995
02:29:42,790 --> 02:29:39,600
camper extension

3996
02:29:44,870 --> 02:29:42,800
and uh so anyway he tells me he stops me

3997
02:29:46,870 --> 02:29:44,880
right there bigfoot last night after you

3998
02:29:49,990 --> 02:29:46,880
left i said where he goes right here i

3999
02:29:51,590 --> 02:29:50,000
go what do you mean next to this van and

4000
02:29:53,110 --> 02:29:51,600
i said what do you say he said

4001
02:29:54,870 --> 02:29:53,120
you know i heard the grunting but this

4002
02:29:56,309 --> 02:29:54,880
is the point that i want to make about

4003
02:29:57,670 --> 02:29:56,319
the size

4004
02:30:00,469 --> 02:29:57,680
he said

4005
02:30:03,110 --> 02:30:00,479
the bigfoot came out in from in front of

4006
02:30:05,030 --> 02:30:03,120
the van and was taller

4007
02:30:06,790 --> 02:30:05,040
than this camper van

4008
02:30:08,389 --> 02:30:06,800
right and i'm standing there and i'm

4009
02:30:10,710 --> 02:30:08,399
thinking no

4010
02:30:13,910 --> 02:30:10,720
it can't be that really you know and i'm

4011
02:30:16,150 --> 02:30:13,920
standing there i can see i'm six foot i

4012
02:30:18,469 --> 02:30:16,160
can't touch the top of this

4013
02:30:19,670 --> 02:30:18,479
and he's saying it was

4014
02:30:21,429 --> 02:30:19,680
taller

4015
02:30:24,150 --> 02:30:21,439
than the van and was standing in front

4016
02:30:25,429 --> 02:30:24,160
of the van and he's like it was this big

4017
02:30:27,750 --> 02:30:25,439
indicating

4018
02:30:28,710 --> 02:30:27,760
you know nine nine or maybe ten feet

4019
02:30:30,710 --> 02:30:28,720
tall

4020
02:30:33,750 --> 02:30:30,720
yeah and i wasn't buying what he was

4021
02:30:35,750 --> 02:30:33,760
selling it just seemed too big

4022
02:30:37,590 --> 02:30:35,760
uh to me duke

4023
02:30:40,630 --> 02:30:37,600
you're probably just

4024
02:30:42,309 --> 02:30:40,640
not surprised not surprised at all as a

4025
02:30:44,070 --> 02:30:42,319
matter of fact i think the majority of

4026
02:30:46,230 --> 02:30:44,080
the sightings that people have are of

4027
02:30:47,429 --> 02:30:46,240
the juveniles and the teenagers they're

4028
02:30:49,670 --> 02:30:47,439
the ones that are dumb and will take

4029
02:30:51,110 --> 02:30:49,680
risks and get spotted the big adults are

4030
02:30:53,110 --> 02:30:51,120
smart enough to stay where humans won't

4031
02:30:54,389 --> 02:30:53,120
see them they've had years to practice

4032
02:30:56,070 --> 02:30:54,399
the only time you see one of those big

4033
02:30:57,750 --> 02:30:56,080
ones is that they want you to see them

4034
02:31:02,150 --> 02:30:57,760
and if they want you to see them you

4035
02:31:05,349 --> 02:31:03,670
let's take our break right here let's

4036
02:31:07,830 --> 02:31:05,359
get into overtime with

4037
02:31:10,309 --> 02:31:07,840
duke sullivan this is fade to black i'm

4038
02:31:14,870 --> 02:31:10,319
your timmy church duke sullivan world

4039
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4040
02:31:19,510 --> 02:31:17,200
over on duke's youtube channel it's

4041
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4042
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4043
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[Music]

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02:35:26,230 --> 02:35:24,309
welcome back paid to black overtime with

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02:35:27,750 --> 02:35:26,240
duke sullivan you saw this coming this

4109
02:35:30,070 --> 02:35:27,760
is no surprise

4110
02:35:32,630 --> 02:35:30,080
what a great show tonight and and duke

4111
02:35:33,990 --> 02:35:32,640
uh you know just just thank you and this

4112
02:35:35,590 --> 02:35:34,000
is one of

4113
02:35:37,270 --> 02:35:35,600
of many shows that we're going to be

4114
02:35:38,950 --> 02:35:37,280
doing in the future but just thank you

4115
02:35:41,030 --> 02:35:38,960
so much and

4116
02:35:44,469 --> 02:35:41,040
i've told everybody where to go uh for

4117
02:35:46,630 --> 02:35:44,479
the glad saga and and uh

4118
02:35:47,750 --> 02:35:46,640
it's it's just an amazing story but this

4119
02:35:49,910 --> 02:35:47,760
is where

4120
02:35:51,750 --> 02:35:49,920
uh when we get into overtime i like to

4121
02:35:54,870 --> 02:35:51,760
you know kind of change gears and and

4122
02:35:57,429 --> 02:35:54,880
have some fun but i want to ask you

4123
02:35:58,550 --> 02:35:57,439
i want to ask you about bigfoot videos

4124
02:36:02,070 --> 02:35:58,560
um

4125
02:36:05,830 --> 02:36:02,080
they pop up uh i check them out

4126
02:36:07,830 --> 02:36:05,840
uh i've seen a few over the last year

4127
02:36:09,190 --> 02:36:07,840
that i'm not gonna you know bring up the

4128
02:36:12,870 --> 02:36:09,200
specifics

4129
02:36:15,030 --> 02:36:12,880
but there's always for me

4130
02:36:16,309 --> 02:36:15,040
something that isn't quite right or

4131
02:36:18,550 --> 02:36:16,319
lacking

4132
02:36:22,070 --> 02:36:18,560
um what do we do about this how do we

4133
02:36:24,150 --> 02:36:22,080
separate what's real and what is not oh

4134
02:36:25,750 --> 02:36:24,160
man that's super difficult before i

4135
02:36:26,870 --> 02:36:25,760
answer that question let me digress to

4136
02:36:28,230 --> 02:36:26,880
something you asked earlier in the show

4137
02:36:30,070 --> 02:36:28,240
and didn't get back to

4138
02:36:31,270 --> 02:36:30,080
where are the most bigfoot sightings oh

4139
02:36:32,870 --> 02:36:31,280
yes

4140
02:36:34,309 --> 02:36:32,880
here's here's an interesting question

4141
02:36:36,630 --> 02:36:34,319
and this requires some dissection

4142
02:36:38,469 --> 02:36:36,640
because how do you define who's having

4143
02:36:40,710 --> 02:36:38,479
the most bigfoot sightings if you go by

4144
02:36:42,309 --> 02:36:40,720
the bfro's website they'll tell you

4145
02:36:43,590 --> 02:36:42,319
washington and oregon state have the

4146
02:36:45,270 --> 02:36:43,600
most sightings

4147
02:36:47,429 --> 02:36:45,280
if you go according to some of the other

4148
02:36:49,030 --> 02:36:47,439
websites squashable.com is really good

4149
02:36:51,349 --> 02:36:49,040
too

4150
02:36:53,990 --> 02:36:51,359
you might find out that actually there's

4151
02:36:55,590 --> 02:36:54,000
between class a b and c

4152
02:36:57,830 --> 02:36:55,600
oklahoma might have the most because

4153
02:36:59,670 --> 02:36:57,840
they're up close to 1200.

4154
02:37:01,750 --> 02:36:59,680
now there's another metric for this too

4155
02:37:03,590 --> 02:37:01,760
which is in order to have a bigfoot

4156
02:37:04,389 --> 02:37:03,600
sighting you have to have a human citing

4157
02:37:05,190 --> 02:37:04,399
it

4158
02:37:07,670 --> 02:37:05,200
okay

4159
02:37:09,030 --> 02:37:07,680
so in terms of actual

4160
02:37:11,590 --> 02:37:09,040
uh

4161
02:37:13,349 --> 02:37:11,600
total numbers of sightings some of these

4162
02:37:14,870 --> 02:37:13,359
places have more sightings but that

4163
02:37:16,950 --> 02:37:14,880
doesn't necessarily mean there's more

4164
02:37:19,349 --> 02:37:16,960
bigfoot there so really what you're

4165
02:37:21,429 --> 02:37:19,359
looking at is a per capita number

4166
02:37:23,349 --> 02:37:21,439
how many people are there in the area

4167
02:37:24,630 --> 02:37:23,359
how many sightings are coming out of the

4168
02:37:26,389 --> 02:37:24,640
area

4169
02:37:27,510 --> 02:37:26,399
and if you go in terms of per capita

4170
02:37:29,510 --> 02:37:27,520
numbers

4171
02:37:31,670 --> 02:37:29,520
alaska and montana win

4172
02:37:34,469 --> 02:37:31,680
because we have small populations and

4173
02:37:37,030 --> 02:37:34,479
tons of sightings

4174
02:37:37,830 --> 02:37:37,040
very interesting um

4175
02:37:40,630 --> 02:37:37,840
uh

4176
02:37:42,950 --> 02:37:40,640
there's okay there's a few things

4177
02:37:45,270 --> 02:37:42,960
i want to get back to the videos

4178
02:37:48,070 --> 02:37:45,280
but uh as quickly

4179
02:37:49,349 --> 02:37:48,080
as quickly as we can before we run out

4180
02:37:51,030 --> 02:37:49,359
of time

4181
02:37:54,550 --> 02:37:51,040
there's also

4182
02:37:56,710 --> 02:37:54,560
another aspect to this that i find very

4183
02:37:57,710 --> 02:37:56,720
intriguing and that is

4184
02:37:59,349 --> 02:37:57,720
an

4185
02:38:01,030 --> 02:37:59,359
interdimensionality

4186
02:38:03,110 --> 02:38:01,040
spirituality

4187
02:38:04,870 --> 02:38:03,120
consciousness aspect

4188
02:38:06,790 --> 02:38:04,880
uh to bigfoot that a lot of people

4189
02:38:08,070 --> 02:38:06,800
reference and talk about

4190
02:38:10,710 --> 02:38:08,080
is there

4191
02:38:12,710 --> 02:38:10,720
how what side of the fence are you on

4192
02:38:15,110 --> 02:38:12,720
you know bigfoot being a

4193
02:38:17,590 --> 02:38:15,120
just a species that's hiding in the in

4194
02:38:20,150 --> 02:38:17,600
in the forest from us

4195
02:38:22,230 --> 02:38:20,160
or is bigfoot

4196
02:38:24,950 --> 02:38:22,240
something that is interdimensional maybe

4197
02:38:26,150 --> 02:38:24,960
not even from planet earth

4198
02:38:27,190 --> 02:38:26,160
uh

4199
02:38:29,190 --> 02:38:27,200
well

4200
02:38:31,349 --> 02:38:29,200
let me let me preface that by saying uh

4201
02:38:34,150 --> 02:38:31,359
that i'm a flesh and blood guy okay

4202
02:38:36,309 --> 02:38:34,160
everything is physical blah blah blah

4203
02:38:37,750 --> 02:38:36,319
i don't have any psychic abilities and

4204
02:38:39,110 --> 02:38:37,760
so for years i've been setting

4205
02:38:41,190 --> 02:38:39,120
everything through the lens of just what

4206
02:38:43,190 --> 02:38:41,200
a scientist would look at show me the

4207
02:38:45,750 --> 02:38:43,200
evidence with the difference being that

4208
02:38:46,550 --> 02:38:45,760
i don't have any preconceived notion

4209
02:38:48,309 --> 02:38:46,560
that

4210
02:38:49,830 --> 02:38:48,319
i'm going to get my funding yanked if i

4211
02:38:51,670 --> 02:38:49,840
come up with something crazy i'm going

4212
02:38:53,590 --> 02:38:51,680
to look at every piece of evidence that

4213
02:38:55,830 --> 02:38:53,600
comes my way and see if there's anything

4214
02:38:57,349 --> 02:38:55,840
to it and some of it's not repeatable

4215
02:38:59,510 --> 02:38:57,359
you only hear this one weird story one

4216
02:39:02,469 --> 02:38:59,520
time and other times you start hearing

4217
02:39:04,070 --> 02:39:02,479
these really weird stories that repeat

4218
02:39:05,590 --> 02:39:04,080
from different people in different parts

4219
02:39:08,070 --> 02:39:05,600
of the country and you go wait wait wait

4220
02:39:09,910 --> 02:39:08,080
wait there's something going on here and

4221
02:39:11,590 --> 02:39:09,920
then when you start seeing examples of

4222
02:39:13,349 --> 02:39:11,600
it yourself

4223
02:39:14,550 --> 02:39:13,359
you start having to go there there's

4224
02:39:16,389 --> 02:39:14,560
definitely something going on here

4225
02:39:17,910 --> 02:39:16,399
they've got some kind of strange

4226
02:39:18,950 --> 02:39:17,920
abilities that we don't understand and

4227
02:39:20,630 --> 02:39:18,960
even uh

4228
02:39:22,230 --> 02:39:20,640
what i consider the most accredited

4229
02:39:24,630 --> 02:39:22,240
bigfoot researcher on the planet right

4230
02:39:26,870 --> 02:39:24,640
now dr igor bertsev again the head of

4231
02:39:28,150 --> 02:39:26,880
the department of hominology and the

4232
02:39:30,230 --> 02:39:28,160
subdivision of the department of

4233
02:39:31,990 --> 02:39:30,240
evolutionary science in moscow russia

4234
02:39:34,070 --> 02:39:32,000
he's been putting butt in the field

4235
02:39:35,670 --> 02:39:34,080
boots on the ground for decades as a

4236
02:39:37,030 --> 02:39:35,680
matter of fact his first field trip to

4237
02:39:40,389 --> 02:39:37,040
look for bigfoot was two years before

4238
02:39:42,630 --> 02:39:40,399
the patterson gimlin film was filmed

4239
02:39:43,830 --> 02:39:42,640
okay so he's been doing it forever and

4240
02:39:45,349 --> 02:39:43,840
i'm part of his organization and

4241
02:39:47,510 --> 02:39:45,359
everything and i the last time i had him

4242
02:39:49,190 --> 02:39:47,520
on my show was episode 100 and i pinned

4243
02:39:51,030 --> 02:39:49,200
him down and i said igor

4244
02:39:53,270 --> 02:39:51,040
why is it so hard for us to get a clear

4245
02:39:55,510 --> 02:39:53,280
picture of these guys why is it so hard

4246
02:39:57,349 --> 02:39:55,520
for us to find physical evidence why is

4247
02:39:58,469 --> 02:39:57,359
it so hard to capture one

4248
02:40:00,630 --> 02:39:58,479
he said because they have paranormal

4249
02:40:02,309 --> 02:40:00,640
abilities we don't understand yet

4250
02:40:03,910 --> 02:40:02,319
now he's seen it firsthand over and over

4251
02:40:05,910 --> 02:40:03,920
and over again

4252
02:40:07,590 --> 02:40:05,920
and you know a lot of it is because

4253
02:40:09,190 --> 02:40:07,600
they're clever and they do things that

4254
02:40:10,870 --> 02:40:09,200
we can figure out how to do they're just

4255
02:40:12,870 --> 02:40:10,880
better at it and another thing is that

4256
02:40:14,070 --> 02:40:12,880
people always just think well

4257
02:40:15,830 --> 02:40:14,080
they don't have any technology or

4258
02:40:17,269 --> 02:40:15,840
anything they're just you know dumb

4259
02:40:19,750 --> 02:40:17,279
long-haired hippies living on the woods

4260
02:40:21,750 --> 02:40:19,760
or something technology does not mean

4261
02:40:23,590 --> 02:40:21,760
we're superior to them it does not make

4262
02:40:25,590 --> 02:40:23,600
us superior to them as a matter of fact

4263
02:40:28,630 --> 02:40:25,600
let me invert that we're inferior to

4264
02:40:30,550 --> 02:40:28,640
them and here's my my thinking on this

4265
02:40:32,550 --> 02:40:30,560
they don't need clothes they don't need

4266
02:40:35,670 --> 02:40:32,560
fire they don't need guns they don't

4267
02:40:37,990 --> 02:40:35,680
need anything they go live in an arctic

4268
02:40:39,990 --> 02:40:38,000
environment year round and need no

4269
02:40:41,429 --> 02:40:40,000
technology at all you take somebody like

4270
02:40:43,830 --> 02:40:41,439
survivor man and drop them out there

4271
02:40:45,349 --> 02:40:43,840
without you know a winter coat or a

4272
02:40:47,190 --> 02:40:45,359
lighter or anything he's dead in a

4273
02:40:49,990 --> 02:40:47,200
couple days yeah it's gonna be a problem

4274
02:40:52,070 --> 02:40:50,000
his skills yeah so in a way if you look

4275
02:40:53,910 --> 02:40:52,080
at it the technology is kind of a crutch

4276
02:40:55,830 --> 02:40:53,920
for us that's what keeps us alive

4277
02:40:57,990 --> 02:40:55,840
because we're not really adapted to this

4278
02:41:00,070 --> 02:40:58,000
planet that we supposedly came from how

4279
02:41:01,510 --> 02:41:00,080
peculiar is that we need all this weird

4280
02:41:03,990 --> 02:41:01,520
stuff in order to stay alive on this

4281
02:41:05,830 --> 02:41:04,000
planet we supposedly originated on

4282
02:41:08,150 --> 02:41:05,840
and they don't

4283
02:41:10,230 --> 02:41:08,160
who really originated here

4284
02:41:12,550 --> 02:41:10,240
yeah we can't survive out in the open

4285
02:41:14,230 --> 02:41:12,560
elements i mean that's it you've got

4286
02:41:17,269 --> 02:41:14,240
you've got days

4287
02:41:19,670 --> 02:41:17,279
and and and that's just the way that it

4288
02:41:22,230 --> 02:41:19,680
is yeah that's even if you're highly

4289
02:41:24,309 --> 02:41:22,240
skilled expert at survivalism and you've

4290
02:41:26,389 --> 02:41:24,319
got some of the stuff you need with you

4291
02:41:27,990 --> 02:41:26,399
your time is limited you need to get the

4292
02:41:29,750 --> 02:41:28,000
hell back out of there and find humans

4293
02:41:31,830 --> 02:41:29,760
or you're probably not going to live no

4294
02:41:32,630 --> 02:41:31,840
that's that's just the way that it is

4295
02:41:36,550 --> 02:41:32,640
but

4296
02:41:37,750 --> 02:41:36,560
then it it is easier for me

4297
02:41:41,510 --> 02:41:37,760
to

4298
02:41:44,469 --> 02:41:41,520
resolve the issues you know no bodies

4299
02:41:46,389 --> 02:41:44,479
you know the lack of and thing look

4300
02:41:49,830 --> 02:41:46,399
when people say well you know you you're

4301
02:41:51,590 --> 02:41:49,840
not going to find uh uh a chimpanzee

4302
02:41:53,429 --> 02:41:51,600
a corpse you're not going to find it

4303
02:41:55,269 --> 02:41:53,439
you're not going to find well

4304
02:41:56,870 --> 02:41:55,279
yeah but we do

4305
02:41:59,910 --> 02:41:56,880
okay so

4306
02:42:03,110 --> 02:42:02,150
but it does happen you're right it it

4307
02:42:04,630 --> 02:42:03,120
happens

4308
02:42:08,550 --> 02:42:04,640
and and

4309
02:42:11,990 --> 02:42:08,560
uh you can hit a deer you can hit a bear

4310
02:42:15,110 --> 02:42:12,000
we haven't hit a sasquatch on a montana

4311
02:42:18,230 --> 02:42:15,120
freeway oh wait we have okay what has

4312
02:42:20,550 --> 02:42:18,240
happened okay uh hold the phone on that

4313
02:42:23,110 --> 02:42:20,560
but but my point being

4314
02:42:25,190 --> 02:42:23,120
the interdimensionality aspect of this

4315
02:42:27,110 --> 02:42:25,200
stepping in and out of portals or

4316
02:42:29,429 --> 02:42:27,120
whatever

4317
02:42:31,990 --> 02:42:29,439
kind of resolves that issue for me and

4318
02:42:35,429 --> 02:42:32,000
i'm more okay with that

4319
02:42:36,389 --> 02:42:35,439
than pandas hiding in in in the forest

4320
02:42:38,630 --> 02:42:36,399
right

4321
02:42:41,510 --> 02:42:38,640
okay so that being said you just said

4322
02:42:42,950 --> 02:42:41,520
somebody hit a bigfoot on the freeway

4323
02:42:44,309 --> 02:42:42,960
this has actually happened multiple

4324
02:42:45,990 --> 02:42:44,319
times there's been big logging trucks

4325
02:42:47,910 --> 02:42:46,000
and stuff that have hit them and there's

4326
02:42:49,510 --> 02:42:47,920
some government agency that shows up

4327
02:42:51,190 --> 02:42:49,520
with a cleanup crew to haul the corpse

4328
02:42:53,269 --> 02:42:51,200
away and to threaten the person that hit

4329
02:42:54,870 --> 02:42:53,279
them this has happened several times

4330
02:42:56,790 --> 02:42:54,880
we've had the people involved actually

4331
02:42:59,110 --> 02:42:56,800
come forward and talk about it this is

4332
02:43:01,429 --> 02:42:59,120
no surprise whatsoever department of the

4333
02:43:03,349 --> 02:43:01,439
interior and forestry is the higher up

4334
02:43:04,630 --> 02:43:03,359
ones actually know what's going on and

4335
02:43:05,830 --> 02:43:04,640
they're doing their very damnedest to

4336
02:43:07,429 --> 02:43:05,840
cover it up

4337
02:43:09,269 --> 02:43:07,439
and they don't like it when researchers

4338
02:43:10,870 --> 02:43:09,279
like blaine show up in algonquin park

4339
02:43:12,469 --> 02:43:10,880
and go hey do you guys ever get any

4340
02:43:13,750 --> 02:43:12,479
bigfoot sightings up here and they go no

4341
02:43:15,030 --> 02:43:13,760
there's no such thing and he goes oh

4342
02:43:16,790 --> 02:43:15,040
really you want to see pictures of some

4343
02:43:18,630 --> 02:43:16,800
that i just took in your park today they

4344
02:43:21,670 --> 02:43:18,640
really don't like that

4345
02:43:22,389 --> 02:43:21,680
now okay so back to

4346
02:43:24,550 --> 02:43:22,399
no

4347
02:43:26,550 --> 02:43:24,560
i i have uh

4348
02:43:28,870 --> 02:43:26,560
i've communicated with a few different

4349
02:43:30,309 --> 02:43:28,880
uh people out there about the the feds

4350
02:43:33,349 --> 02:43:30,319
coming in and

4351
02:43:36,150 --> 02:43:33,359
and retrieving bodies um but let's get

4352
02:43:38,469 --> 02:43:36,160
back to the the films

4353
02:43:40,710 --> 02:43:38,479
how do we how do we separate

4354
02:43:44,150 --> 02:43:40,720
uh

4355
02:43:45,750 --> 02:43:44,160
a real bigfoot video from something

4356
02:43:47,510 --> 02:43:45,760
that's being hoaxed

4357
02:43:49,590 --> 02:43:47,520
it's really tough use usually you don't

4358
02:43:51,190 --> 02:43:49,600
get them on video people get pictures of

4359
02:43:52,710 --> 02:43:51,200
them because if they know there's a

4360
02:43:54,150 --> 02:43:52,720
human observing them they won't move

4361
02:43:55,830 --> 02:43:54,160
they'll stay in one place and look like

4362
02:43:57,269 --> 02:43:55,840
an inanimate object to the best of their

4363
02:43:59,269 --> 02:43:57,279
capability

4364
02:44:01,670 --> 02:43:59,279
so you know and the other thing is their

4365
02:44:03,110 --> 02:44:01,680
hair has weird properties to it that

4366
02:44:05,510 --> 02:44:03,120
tends to

4367
02:44:06,950 --> 02:44:05,520
refract or collect the light it's hard

4368
02:44:08,950 --> 02:44:06,960
to describe but it doesn't have a

4369
02:44:10,550 --> 02:44:08,960
medulla and it's basically transparent

4370
02:44:12,950 --> 02:44:10,560
even though it's got color in parts of

4371
02:44:14,150 --> 02:44:12,960
it so whatever sort of

4372
02:44:15,349 --> 02:44:14,160
object they're sitting next to if

4373
02:44:16,870 --> 02:44:15,359
they're in the light especially their

4374
02:44:18,790 --> 02:44:16,880
hair will pick up the color of that

4375
02:44:20,870 --> 02:44:18,800
object and that will break up their

4376
02:44:23,190 --> 02:44:20,880
outline to the point where our

4377
02:44:24,870 --> 02:44:23,200
pattern recognition won't see it as a

4378
02:44:26,309 --> 02:44:24,880
recognizable object because part of it

4379
02:44:28,870 --> 02:44:26,319
is like the color of the tree it's next

4380
02:44:30,070 --> 02:44:28,880
to what like ground like predator or

4381
02:44:32,150 --> 02:44:30,080
something like that

4382
02:44:34,230 --> 02:44:32,160
they i think yeah they can do that too

4383
02:44:36,309 --> 02:44:34,240
but no this is just a natural thing

4384
02:44:37,830 --> 02:44:36,319
their hair can do if they're sitting in

4385
02:44:39,510 --> 02:44:37,840
the shadow they're just darker than the

4386
02:44:41,830 --> 02:44:39,520
shadow they're sitting in which again is

4387
02:44:43,670 --> 02:44:41,840
a giveaway but if they're partially out

4388
02:44:45,910 --> 02:44:43,680
in the light the part that's in the

4389
02:44:47,590 --> 02:44:45,920
light whatever it's next to will tend to

4390
02:44:48,950 --> 02:44:47,600
pick up that color and i know people

4391
02:44:50,469 --> 02:44:48,960
that have hair samples and i've told

4392
02:44:52,469 --> 02:44:50,479
them about this and while i was on the

4393
02:44:54,870 --> 02:44:52,479
phone with them they went and checked it

4394
02:44:57,110 --> 02:44:54,880
out and went oh my god you're right so

4395
02:44:59,510 --> 02:44:57,120
standing next to her

4396
02:45:01,349 --> 02:44:59,520
standing next to a green tree they could

4397
02:45:02,950 --> 02:45:01,359
possibly be the part that was next to

4398
02:45:04,070 --> 02:45:02,960
the tree would look like it was green so

4399
02:45:06,150 --> 02:45:04,080
that would tend to break up their

4400
02:45:09,110 --> 02:45:06,160
outline all they have to do is humans

4401
02:45:10,550 --> 02:45:09,120
are very much based on movement if we

4402
02:45:12,389 --> 02:45:10,560
don't see something move we don't

4403
02:45:14,309 --> 02:45:12,399
necessarily have a pattern recognition

4404
02:45:15,990 --> 02:45:14,319
for it and if you're thinking about an

4405
02:45:18,550 --> 02:45:16,000
object that's you know its legs are as

4406
02:45:20,150 --> 02:45:18,560
thick as trees and it's huge

4407
02:45:21,510 --> 02:45:20,160
we don't have a pattern recognition for

4408
02:45:23,510 --> 02:45:21,520
that to start with because it's not

4409
02:45:24,950 --> 02:45:23,520
supposed to exist all it has to do is

4410
02:45:27,349 --> 02:45:24,960
not move and our mind goes well that's

4411
02:45:29,990 --> 02:45:27,359
just a tree and we just look right past

4412
02:45:31,750 --> 02:45:30,000
it now you've got i don't want to uh

4413
02:45:34,630 --> 02:45:31,760
spend a whole lot of time on this but if

4414
02:45:36,469 --> 02:45:34,640
i go to world bigfoot radio

4415
02:45:37,349 --> 02:45:36,479
your um

4416
02:45:38,870 --> 02:45:37,359
uh

4417
02:45:40,790 --> 02:45:38,880
youtube channel

4418
02:45:43,590 --> 02:45:40,800
uh what do you post up there as far as

4419
02:45:45,190 --> 02:45:43,600
videos go well what i do is interviews

4420
02:45:46,550 --> 02:45:45,200
with some of the top flight researchers

4421
02:45:48,469 --> 02:45:46,560
on the planet that have really great

4422
02:45:50,070 --> 02:45:48,479
evidence to show and some of them

4423
02:45:52,790 --> 02:45:50,080
collect enough that they're on the show

4424
02:45:54,070 --> 02:45:52,800
once or twice a year to do updates

4425
02:45:55,429 --> 02:45:54,080
these people all really know what

4426
02:45:57,269 --> 02:45:55,439
they're doing they get really good

4427
02:45:59,670 --> 02:45:57,279
evidence that they can post and as far

4428
02:46:01,110 --> 02:45:59,680
as video goes you know when you see

4429
02:46:02,870 --> 02:46:01,120
when you see a really great picture of

4430
02:46:05,269 --> 02:46:02,880
bigfoot and

4431
02:46:07,030 --> 02:46:05,279
maybe not a bigfoot because again keep

4432
02:46:09,030 --> 02:46:07,040
in mind that weird

4433
02:46:11,110 --> 02:46:09,040
property that their hair has if you get

4434
02:46:12,870 --> 02:46:11,120
an actual authentic picture of a bigfoot

4435
02:46:14,469 --> 02:46:12,880
they tend to look kind of blurry and

4436
02:46:15,750 --> 02:46:14,479
everybody's always like oh ha ha you

4437
02:46:17,670 --> 02:46:15,760
know why can't you get a clear picture

4438
02:46:19,110 --> 02:46:17,680
of them dude take the best camera you

4439
02:46:20,710 --> 02:46:19,120
can and try and get a killer picture and

4440
02:46:23,030 --> 02:46:20,720
i guarantee you it's going to come out

4441
02:46:24,469 --> 02:46:23,040
blurry you know and it's a hit mitch

4442
02:46:26,230 --> 02:46:24,479
didn't realize that he was right when he

4443
02:46:27,830 --> 02:46:26,240
was joking about that

4444
02:46:29,349 --> 02:46:27,840
you know it isn't that the cameras are

4445
02:46:31,190 --> 02:46:29,359
all screwed up it's a bigfoot is just

4446
02:46:32,790 --> 02:46:31,200
blurry and that's very disturbing

4447
02:46:34,630 --> 02:46:32,800
there's a huge blurry monster we know

4448
02:46:35,990 --> 02:46:34,640
nothing about running around the woods

4449
02:46:37,429 --> 02:46:36,000
right now

4450
02:46:39,110 --> 02:46:37,439
and mitch when he was making that joke

4451
02:46:41,349 --> 02:46:39,120
didn't realize how dead on he is they

4452
02:46:42,710 --> 02:46:41,359
literally are that way so first you know

4453
02:46:44,710 --> 02:46:42,720
telling point if you see something

4454
02:46:47,030 --> 02:46:44,720
that's really really clear

4455
02:46:49,030 --> 02:46:47,040
probably not a sasquatch another thing

4456
02:46:50,790 --> 02:46:49,040
is body proportion they are not built

4457
02:46:52,070 --> 02:46:50,800
like humans are

4458
02:46:54,550 --> 02:46:52,080
they're uh

4459
02:46:55,670 --> 02:46:54,560
shins are shorter their forearms are

4460
02:46:57,429 --> 02:46:55,680
longer

4461
02:46:59,510 --> 02:46:57,439
when they walk they tend to swing their

4462
02:47:01,990 --> 02:46:59,520
limbs especially their upper limbs

4463
02:47:04,150 --> 02:47:02,000
because their locomotion is tight rope

4464
02:47:05,349 --> 02:47:04,160
they don't step side by side like we do

4465
02:47:07,190 --> 02:47:05,359
and that's another easy way you can tell

4466
02:47:08,630 --> 02:47:07,200
their trails because it's one foot right

4467
02:47:10,469 --> 02:47:08,640
in front of the other

4468
02:47:12,150 --> 02:47:10,479
very peculiar looking humans don't walk

4469
02:47:13,269 --> 02:47:12,160
that way it's because of the way their

4470
02:47:14,790 --> 02:47:13,279
hips are built and the way they have to

4471
02:47:16,550 --> 02:47:14,800
swing their legs

4472
02:47:19,510 --> 02:47:16,560
and that's why they swing their arms to

4473
02:47:20,710 --> 02:47:19,520
maintain their balance it also is part i

4474
02:47:22,230 --> 02:47:20,720
think part of the reason why they lean

4475
02:47:23,349 --> 02:47:22,240
forward when they're going

4476
02:47:25,750 --> 02:47:23,359
because i've actually been able to

4477
02:47:28,230 --> 02:47:25,760
almost duplicate this walk and i can

4478
02:47:29,910 --> 02:47:28,240
only do it going uphill where you

4479
02:47:31,510 --> 02:47:29,920
naturally have to lean forward in order

4480
02:47:32,790 --> 02:47:31,520
to do it if i try and do it going

4481
02:47:34,870 --> 02:47:32,800
downhill around the level i can't

4482
02:47:36,230 --> 02:47:34,880
maintain my balance but they're built

4483
02:47:38,070 --> 02:47:36,240
different than we are so apparently they

4484
02:47:40,870 --> 02:47:38,080
can do it and you may have seen video of

4485
02:47:42,870 --> 02:47:40,880
grover tran krantz a famed bigfoot

4486
02:47:44,630 --> 02:47:42,880
scientist doing that he was up on a

4487
02:47:46,469 --> 02:47:44,640
couple tables walking along trying to do

4488
02:47:47,670 --> 02:47:46,479
the bigfoot walk and explain it to the

4489
02:47:49,830 --> 02:47:47,680
the camera crew and he had it pretty

4490
02:47:52,790 --> 02:47:49,840
close to down too but it's just so

4491
02:47:54,389 --> 02:47:52,800
unnatural for a human to walk that way

4492
02:47:55,670 --> 02:47:54,399
and that's again a dead giveaway if

4493
02:47:58,070 --> 02:47:55,680
you're out in the woods and you see huge

4494
02:47:59,670 --> 02:47:58,080
tracks and they're in a straight line

4495
02:48:00,710 --> 02:47:59,680
they're not side by side like humans

4496
02:48:03,269 --> 02:48:00,720
walk well

4497
02:48:05,190 --> 02:48:03,279
bigfoot track the

4498
02:48:08,950 --> 02:48:05,200
uh

4499
02:48:11,110 --> 02:48:08,960
hang on for a second let me let me get

4500
02:48:13,030 --> 02:48:11,120
this out

4501
02:48:15,269 --> 02:48:13,040
um i'm i'm gonna

4502
02:48:18,309 --> 02:48:15,279
hit everybody with your bigfoot channel

4503
02:48:20,230 --> 02:48:18,319
you've got hundreds of videos um up here

4504
02:48:22,150 --> 02:48:20,240
and it's a it's a pretty extensive

4505
02:48:23,190 --> 02:48:22,160
channel and i've spent a lot of time

4506
02:48:26,710 --> 02:48:23,200
there

4507
02:48:28,950 --> 02:48:26,720
um when you go out and you're gonna

4508
02:48:30,309 --> 02:48:28,960
you're you're in the middle of a project

4509
02:48:31,990 --> 02:48:30,319
right now you were telling me right

4510
02:48:34,710 --> 02:48:32,000
before the show tonight

4511
02:48:37,830 --> 02:48:34,720
and i would like to talk about that but

4512
02:48:38,710 --> 02:48:37,840
have you been able to capture what you

4513
02:48:42,710 --> 02:48:38,720
think

4514
02:48:43,590 --> 02:48:42,720
is is something definitive

4515
02:48:45,910 --> 02:48:43,600
uh

4516
02:48:47,510 --> 02:48:45,920
well i just turned out episode 120 about

4517
02:48:49,429 --> 02:48:47,520
a month and a half ago and that was me

4518
02:48:52,230 --> 02:48:49,439
and the full team doing uh

4519
02:48:54,070 --> 02:48:52,240
recon of hidden valley or you know as we

4520
02:48:55,590 --> 02:48:54,080
like to call it valley of the giants

4521
02:48:57,590 --> 02:48:55,600
we've been up there for five years now

4522
02:48:59,670 --> 02:48:57,600
so they're getting too close to us and

4523
02:49:01,750 --> 02:48:59,680
we're catching them on video

4524
02:49:03,750 --> 02:49:01,760
and i've had a lot of researchers that

4525
02:49:06,389 --> 02:49:03,760
are actually better than i am

4526
02:49:07,990 --> 02:49:06,399
i have sent me screenshots and or time

4527
02:49:10,309 --> 02:49:08,000
stamps and going duke there's one right

4528
02:49:11,910 --> 02:49:10,319
here duke there's one right here

4529
02:49:12,630 --> 02:49:11,920
and the ones that i've actually pulled

4530
02:49:14,150 --> 02:49:12,640
out

4531
02:49:15,590 --> 02:49:14,160
and looked at so far and i'm still

4532
02:49:17,910 --> 02:49:15,600
working on this because i'm busy making

4533
02:49:20,070 --> 02:49:17,920
other videos and doing more research but

4534
02:49:21,750 --> 02:49:20,080
um one of them is

4535
02:49:23,269 --> 02:49:21,760
very very convincing as a matter of fact

4536
02:49:25,030 --> 02:49:23,279
if you go to my

4537
02:49:27,190 --> 02:49:25,040
youtube channel right now that picture's

4538
02:49:28,950 --> 02:49:27,200
up on my community tab i apparently

4539
02:49:31,830 --> 02:49:28,960
zoomed right in on one for about 13

4540
02:49:34,469 --> 02:49:31,840
seconds and again mr blaine tyler from

4541
02:49:35,990 --> 02:49:34,479
uh the bigfoot barn up in ontario canada

4542
02:49:38,469 --> 02:49:36,000
spotted it and sent me the screen

4543
02:49:40,150 --> 02:49:38,479
capture of it and and then i had to go

4544
02:49:42,389 --> 02:49:40,160
back and find the piece of video and

4545
02:49:43,910 --> 02:49:42,399
yeah i do not know what was happening

4546
02:49:45,990 --> 02:49:43,920
there i can't remember

4547
02:49:48,070 --> 02:49:46,000
if i heard something if i saw something

4548
02:49:49,750 --> 02:49:48,080
move or if i just noticed the object

4549
02:49:51,990 --> 02:49:49,760
went that doesn't look normal and i

4550
02:49:53,429 --> 02:49:52,000
zoomed in on it but two different screen

4551
02:49:54,790 --> 02:49:53,439
captures i've looked at so far you can

4552
02:49:56,309 --> 02:49:54,800
actually see the tilt of the head is

4553
02:49:57,910 --> 02:49:56,319
different he was moving

4554
02:50:00,309 --> 02:49:57,920
and he's got his face down he's lying

4555
02:50:01,670 --> 02:50:00,319
behind a log and he's got just his eyes

4556
02:50:03,670 --> 02:50:01,680
in the bridge of his nose peeking up

4557
02:50:06,550 --> 02:50:03,680
looking at you you're right you're right

4558
02:50:07,990 --> 02:50:06,560
yeah he was about 80 feet from me yep

4559
02:50:10,309 --> 02:50:08,000
yeah i'm looking at it right here and

4560
02:50:12,309 --> 02:50:10,319
you can see all of this this is uh when

4561
02:50:15,510 --> 02:50:12,319
you go to the community tab

4562
02:50:18,309 --> 02:50:15,520
scroll down uh past uh

4563
02:50:20,070 --> 02:50:18,319
uh duke's mug for fade to black and then

4564
02:50:22,870 --> 02:50:20,080
right below that

4565
02:50:25,190 --> 02:50:22,880
is uh this screen capture and it's it's

4566
02:50:28,230 --> 02:50:25,200
pretty cool it says right there from 120

4567
02:50:29,910 --> 02:50:28,240
uh valley of the giants now you are in

4568
02:50:31,590 --> 02:50:29,920
the middle of uh

4569
02:50:33,510 --> 02:50:31,600
you're gonna be doing editing tonight

4570
02:50:35,910 --> 02:50:33,520
but you're in the middle of

4571
02:50:36,950 --> 02:50:35,920
uh some recon uh what are you going to

4572
02:50:38,630 --> 02:50:36,960
be doing

4573
02:50:40,389 --> 02:50:38,640
well this is really different for us

4574
02:50:41,910 --> 02:50:40,399
jimmy uh we usually just try and stick

4575
02:50:43,190 --> 02:50:41,920
strictly to the bigfoot research and

4576
02:50:43,990 --> 02:50:43,200
stay away from some of the other stuff

4577
02:50:46,309 --> 02:50:44,000
but

4578
02:50:48,230 --> 02:50:46,319
well recently one of our members who is

4579
02:50:49,750 --> 02:50:48,240
like aragorn from lord of the rings and

4580
02:50:51,510 --> 02:50:49,760
as a total ranger

4581
02:50:52,710 --> 02:50:51,520
he figured out where the mega is here on

4582
02:50:54,070 --> 02:50:52,720
montana

4583
02:50:56,070 --> 02:50:54,080
there's somebody that's been uh has a

4584
02:50:57,429 --> 02:50:56,080
website called montana megalis uh julie

4585
02:50:59,110 --> 02:50:57,439
ryder and she's been putting up pictures

4586
02:51:01,429 --> 02:50:59,120
of these things for years but she won't

4587
02:51:03,429 --> 02:51:01,439
tell anybody where they are

4588
02:51:05,750 --> 02:51:03,439
well now our ranger found out where they

4589
02:51:06,870 --> 02:51:05,760
are and our team's been over there for a

4590
02:51:08,230 --> 02:51:06,880
couple weeks now as a matter of fact

4591
02:51:09,910 --> 02:51:08,240
half the team was over there the last

4592
02:51:11,990 --> 02:51:09,920
time we were up doing bigfoot research

4593
02:51:13,750 --> 02:51:12,000
to get more video which i haven't even

4594
02:51:15,990 --> 02:51:13,760
released yet by the way

4595
02:51:17,429 --> 02:51:16,000
um and they've got some really

4596
02:51:19,190 --> 02:51:17,439
astounding pictures of some of these

4597
02:51:21,190 --> 02:51:19,200
supposed dolmens over there one of them

4598
02:51:22,790 --> 02:51:21,200
i think is actually legit it could be

4599
02:51:25,110 --> 02:51:22,800
one of the largest dolmens on earth so

4600
02:51:27,110 --> 02:51:25,120
the other ones look like maybe natural

4601
02:51:28,950 --> 02:51:27,120
because it's 40 miles of baffles giant

4602
02:51:31,590 --> 02:51:28,960
boulders all over the place but this

4603
02:51:33,030 --> 02:51:31,600
stuff looks really peculiar and like i

4604
02:51:35,190 --> 02:51:33,040
said i'm pretty sure at least a couple

4605
02:51:36,710 --> 02:51:35,200
of them are are not natural so we're

4606
02:51:39,030 --> 02:51:36,720
going to go over there with our team

4607
02:51:40,389 --> 02:51:39,040
friday and saturday and run around and

4608
02:51:42,389 --> 02:51:40,399
do a lot of measurements and try and get

4609
02:51:43,830 --> 02:51:42,399
as much video as we can

4610
02:51:45,349 --> 02:51:43,840
and uh that's that's the next thing and

4611
02:51:47,269 --> 02:51:45,359
then it's back to the sasquatch research

4612
02:51:48,550 --> 02:51:47,279
again but i know some archaeologists and

4613
02:51:49,910 --> 02:51:48,560
stuff once i have some measurements and

4614
02:51:52,230 --> 02:51:49,920
video i can send to them they'll be able

4615
02:51:54,950 --> 02:51:52,240
to make a call on and go nah it's just a

4616
02:51:56,950 --> 02:51:54,960
jumble of boulders or uh i'm coming over

4617
02:51:59,590 --> 02:51:56,960
with my team to look at that now duke

4618
02:52:03,429 --> 02:51:59,600
where was it exactly

4619
02:52:05,510 --> 02:52:03,439
well ed and have you been following uh

4620
02:52:09,349 --> 02:52:05,520
you know i know that you talk uh to eric

4621
02:52:11,349 --> 02:52:09,359
awakening man a lot and he's posting uh

4622
02:52:13,510 --> 02:52:11,359
you know what he thinks is intriguing

4623
02:52:18,469 --> 02:52:13,520
videos all the time

4624
02:52:21,510 --> 02:52:18,479
and i have you seen this video of

4625
02:52:24,230 --> 02:52:21,520
what looks like bigfoot uh taking a bath

4626
02:52:26,550 --> 02:52:24,240
in this in this lake or river

4627
02:52:28,790 --> 02:52:26,560
and eric posted it said this may be some

4628
02:52:30,469 --> 02:52:28,800
of the most amazing uh bigfoot footage i

4629
02:52:32,389 --> 02:52:30,479
have ever seen

4630
02:52:33,349 --> 02:52:32,399
have you have you taken a look at that

4631
02:52:34,950 --> 02:52:33,359
video

4632
02:52:37,750 --> 02:52:34,960
it's supposed to be a female walking

4633
02:52:39,510 --> 02:52:37,760
across the river baby yes yeah i have

4634
02:52:41,830 --> 02:52:39,520
not had a chance to actually do a

4635
02:52:43,590 --> 02:52:41,840
breakdown on that although i suspect as

4636
02:52:45,030 --> 02:52:43,600
popular as it is right now thinker

4637
02:52:47,349 --> 02:52:45,040
thunker will probably tackle it here

4638
02:52:49,190 --> 02:52:47,359
shortly and do a breakdown on it and let

4639
02:52:50,710 --> 02:52:49,200
let me recommend his channel to everyone

4640
02:52:53,269 --> 02:52:50,720
this guy has got the skills and the

4641
02:52:54,870 --> 02:52:53,279
know-how and the training and he's

4642
02:52:56,790 --> 02:52:54,880
really interested in this sort of thing

4643
02:52:59,110 --> 02:52:56,800
and when a piece of video like that pops

4644
02:52:59,750 --> 02:52:59,120
up he will generally do a breakdown on

4645
02:53:01,510 --> 02:52:59,760
it

4646
02:53:03,190 --> 02:53:01,520
and he is really really good at being

4647
02:53:04,550 --> 02:53:03,200
able to make a call on whether it's bs

4648
02:53:06,790 --> 02:53:04,560
or it's legit

4649
02:53:10,070 --> 02:53:06,800
yeah i'm i'm looking for the video here

4650
02:53:12,630 --> 02:53:10,080
i don't see it eric did you pull it down

4651
02:53:15,990 --> 02:53:12,640
for some reason

4652
02:53:19,190 --> 02:53:16,000
um i don't see it here i watched it

4653
02:53:21,110 --> 02:53:19,200
and what i was more interested in was

4654
02:53:23,190 --> 02:53:21,120
the comments from everybody going you

4655
02:53:26,790 --> 02:53:23,200
know what this uh

4656
02:53:28,870 --> 02:53:26,800
this looks pretty good where normally uh

4657
02:53:31,030 --> 02:53:28,880
you know people react and

4658
02:53:33,510 --> 02:53:31,040
and and debunk things pretty quickly

4659
02:53:35,830 --> 02:53:33,520
which i didn't see on this video but

4660
02:53:38,309 --> 02:53:35,840
eric i don't see the video here anymore

4661
02:53:41,110 --> 02:53:38,319
i know you're listening

4662
02:53:44,230 --> 02:53:41,120
put it back up yeah yeah

4663
02:53:46,630 --> 02:53:44,240
eric what's up with the video yeah

4664
02:53:49,030 --> 02:53:46,640
so you haven't you haven't seen it yet

4665
02:53:50,309 --> 02:53:49,040
no i have not i it's actually up on my

4666
02:53:51,670 --> 02:53:50,319
group and i've just been so busy i

4667
02:53:54,309 --> 02:53:51,680
haven't even had a chance to watch it

4668
02:53:56,630 --> 02:53:54,319
yeah i i i watched a clip of it but like

4669
02:53:59,750 --> 02:53:56,640
i said i was watching everybody's

4670
02:54:02,070 --> 02:53:59,760
reactions and and that's where i usually

4671
02:54:04,710 --> 02:54:02,080
uh gauge things but

4672
02:54:06,950 --> 02:54:04,720
eric did you pull this down and i'm

4673
02:54:10,309 --> 02:54:06,960
gonna text him i know he's listening

4674
02:54:10,319 --> 02:54:16,469
oh eric's in trouble yeah yeah man

4675
02:54:24,790 --> 02:54:20,469
where is the video of the female

4676
02:54:28,710 --> 02:54:24,800
in the lake with her kid

4677
02:54:31,990 --> 02:54:30,710
okay um i think she's wade in the river

4678
02:54:34,870 --> 02:54:32,000
but yeah he probably knows which one

4679
02:54:36,550 --> 02:54:34,880
you're talking about yeah and uh

4680
02:54:38,550 --> 02:54:36,560
i found that very interesting and i

4681
02:54:41,190 --> 02:54:38,560
wanted to get your take on it

4682
02:54:44,550 --> 02:54:41,200
it was uh for something to be so

4683
02:54:46,870 --> 02:54:44,560
positively received in a community that

4684
02:54:49,349 --> 02:54:46,880
is ready to just shoot something down

4685
02:54:50,790 --> 02:54:49,359
you know very quickly absolutely well

4686
02:54:52,150 --> 02:54:50,800
there's a bunch of people that you know

4687
02:54:54,230 --> 02:54:52,160
if you've got the right ones watching it

4688
02:54:55,990 --> 02:54:54,240
and they know what they're talking about

4689
02:54:57,990 --> 02:54:56,000
and they weigh in and go

4690
02:54:59,750 --> 02:54:58,000
yeah this looks legit to me all the

4691
02:55:01,910 --> 02:54:59,760
people that know who they are and trust

4692
02:55:03,670 --> 02:55:01,920
their opinion will go oh okay well it's

4693
02:55:04,790 --> 02:55:03,680
probably legit you know

4694
02:55:05,750 --> 02:55:04,800
because some of these guys have been

4695
02:55:07,750 --> 02:55:05,760
looking at this stuff they've been

4696
02:55:09,990 --> 02:55:07,760
seeing them in real life maybe for

4697
02:55:11,429 --> 02:55:10,000
decades so they see a video or something

4698
02:55:13,910 --> 02:55:11,439
they got a pretty good idea whether it's

4699
02:55:16,389 --> 02:55:13,920
true or not whether it's made up or not

4700
02:55:18,469 --> 02:55:16,399
and you know again some of the ones that

4701
02:55:19,910 --> 02:55:18,479
look really good when you check them out

4702
02:55:22,389 --> 02:55:19,920
a little bit closer it's like well no

4703
02:55:24,070 --> 02:55:22,399
that's a guy in a suit because again the

4704
02:55:25,910 --> 02:55:24,080
proportions are like a human even if

4705
02:55:28,710 --> 02:55:25,920
they're more massive and muscular or

4706
02:55:31,510 --> 02:55:28,720
whatever the movement is like a human

4707
02:55:34,710 --> 02:55:31,520
the last question that i have for you is

4708
02:55:37,030 --> 02:55:34,720
is probably one of the big ones and

4709
02:55:39,830 --> 02:55:37,040
which is this it's the

4710
02:55:42,070 --> 02:55:39,840
it's the bigfoot ufo connection

4711
02:55:43,910 --> 02:55:42,080
you know you've got a ufo sighting and

4712
02:55:45,269 --> 02:55:43,920
then bigfoot shows up a couple of

4713
02:55:47,349 --> 02:55:45,279
minutes later

4714
02:55:50,070 --> 02:55:47,359
you see bigfoot a couple of minutes

4715
02:55:52,150 --> 02:55:50,080
later there's lights in the sky

4716
02:55:53,910 --> 02:55:52,160
is there a connection

4717
02:55:56,389 --> 02:55:53,920
i know i know a bunch of researchers

4718
02:55:57,830 --> 02:55:56,399
that claim that when the space boys show

4719
02:55:59,429 --> 02:55:57,840
up the bigfoot run for the hills and try

4720
02:56:01,990 --> 02:55:59,439
to get away from them

4721
02:56:04,710 --> 02:56:02,000
and one of them in particular who is the

4722
02:56:06,950 --> 02:56:04,720
second in command of the entire

4723
02:56:10,230 --> 02:56:06,960
international hominology for the for the

4724
02:56:12,469 --> 02:56:10,240
world she's in charge of north america

4725
02:56:14,550 --> 02:56:12,479
she's been on my show talking about that

4726
02:56:16,950 --> 02:56:14,560
and this is a long answer so we really

4727
02:56:18,950 --> 02:56:16,960
don't have time for it but let me refer

4728
02:56:22,070 --> 02:56:18,960
everybody over to a show called

4729
02:56:23,910 --> 02:56:22,080
sasquatch full disclosure which is on my

4730
02:56:25,429 --> 02:56:23,920
rumble channel the reason it's on my

4731
02:56:27,429 --> 02:56:25,439
rumble channel is if i put it up on

4732
02:56:29,190 --> 02:56:27,439
youtube i wouldn't have a channel okay

4733
02:56:31,750 --> 02:56:29,200
so if you want to check it out

4734
02:56:33,349 --> 02:56:31,760
it's over there go check it out and she

4735
02:56:36,150 --> 02:56:33,359
will tell you exactly what she thinks is

4736
02:56:38,950 --> 02:56:36,160
going on short version is

4737
02:56:41,110 --> 02:56:38,960
she's unsure of where the sasquatch came

4738
02:56:42,150 --> 02:56:41,120
from i have theories on that she's not

4739
02:56:44,469 --> 02:56:42,160
willing to state because she doesn't

4740
02:56:45,990 --> 02:56:44,479
know for sure but she is fairly certain

4741
02:56:47,750 --> 02:56:46,000
that there's one of the alien races

4742
02:56:49,510 --> 02:56:47,760
playing around here on earth that are

4743
02:56:50,630 --> 02:56:49,520
trying to either enslave or exterminate

4744
02:56:52,790 --> 02:56:50,640
them

4745
02:56:55,190 --> 02:56:52,800
and she's fairly certain it's the zetas

4746
02:56:58,309 --> 02:56:55,200
i've heard uh

4747
02:56:59,750 --> 02:56:58,319
things very similar to this duke

4748
02:57:03,269 --> 02:56:59,760
and

4749
02:57:06,389 --> 02:57:03,279
i you know i i just don't the reason why

4750
02:57:07,510 --> 02:57:06,399
i have to have a complete open mind to

4751
02:57:10,469 --> 02:57:07,520
this

4752
02:57:15,429 --> 02:57:10,479
is sasquatch bigfoot

4753
02:57:18,870 --> 02:57:15,439
has been very successful in avoiding us

4754
02:57:21,590 --> 02:57:18,880
on every single level

4755
02:57:26,630 --> 02:57:21,600
and i there there's got to be something

4756
02:57:28,950 --> 02:57:26,640
else here that that isn't explained look

4757
02:57:31,349 --> 02:57:28,960
we discover species all the time we go

4758
02:57:34,590 --> 02:57:31,359
to the amazon rainforest and

4759
02:57:36,710 --> 02:57:34,600
you know um the numbers are there's uh

4760
02:57:39,670 --> 02:57:36,720
8.8 to 10

4761
02:57:41,910 --> 02:57:39,680
million species right now on planet

4762
02:57:45,030 --> 02:57:41,920
earth but only one and a half million

4763
02:57:48,630 --> 02:57:45,040
have been cataloged and discovered okay

4764
02:57:49,429 --> 02:57:48,640
this is what the universities will teach

4765
02:57:50,870 --> 02:57:49,439
you

4766
02:57:53,269 --> 02:57:50,880
all right okay

4767
02:57:54,630 --> 02:57:53,279
i'll buy into that but sasquatch is

4768
02:57:55,990 --> 02:57:54,640
pretty big

4769
02:57:58,070 --> 02:57:56,000
you know this is

4770
02:57:59,269 --> 02:57:58,080
yeah you know we're not talking a little

4771
02:58:03,990 --> 02:57:59,279
bug

4772
02:58:05,830 --> 02:58:04,000
no no and and i i can't figure out why

4773
02:58:08,790 --> 02:58:05,840
we haven't uh

4774
02:58:11,830 --> 02:58:08,800
made the discovery yet pandas were

4775
02:58:14,389 --> 02:58:11,840
pretty evasive for for thousands of

4776
02:58:16,389 --> 02:58:14,399
years yeah think about how dumb pandas

4777
02:58:18,550 --> 02:58:16,399
are yeah barely walk and chew bamboo at

4778
02:58:20,469 --> 02:58:18,560
the same time and it took us over 50

4779
02:58:21,830 --> 02:58:20,479
years from the time when somebody went

4780
02:58:23,190 --> 02:58:21,840
hey there's this thing called a panda

4781
02:58:24,710 --> 02:58:23,200
everybody

4782
02:58:26,150 --> 02:58:24,720
and then two big game hunters went

4783
02:58:27,750 --> 02:58:26,160
bagged one guess who those were that was

4784
02:58:29,269 --> 02:58:27,760
teddy roosevelt's kids that actually

4785
02:58:31,349 --> 02:58:29,279
killed once that's right

4786
02:58:32,630 --> 02:58:31,359
that's right and pandas are dumb and

4787
02:58:34,150 --> 02:58:32,640
they live in a very predictable

4788
02:58:36,790 --> 02:58:34,160
environment at a very predictable

4789
02:58:39,110 --> 02:58:36,800
altitude and still took 50 years for

4790
02:58:41,429 --> 02:58:39,120
somebody to bag one bigfoot are very

4791
02:58:43,910 --> 02:58:41,439
smart they can live anywhere in almost

4792
02:58:46,550 --> 02:58:43,920
any environment they're very invasive

4793
02:58:48,790 --> 02:58:46,560
and to add two three problems on top of

4794
02:58:51,269 --> 02:58:48,800
that they don't want to be found our

4795
02:58:53,030 --> 02:58:51,279
government doesn't want them to be found

4796
02:58:54,950 --> 02:58:53,040
and they have paranormal abilities that

4797
02:58:57,110 --> 02:58:54,960
will help protect that they won't be

4798
02:58:58,630 --> 02:58:57,120
found and almost every native tribe in

4799
02:59:01,510 --> 02:58:58,640
the continent will tell you they walk in

4800
02:59:03,429 --> 02:59:01,520
two worlds they're not only here in our

4801
02:59:05,990 --> 02:59:03,439
world but they can pierce the veil and

4802
02:59:08,309 --> 02:59:06,000
go into another one that we can't get to

4803
02:59:09,990 --> 02:59:08,319
and that's where you see the tracks

4804
02:59:11,590 --> 02:59:10,000
appear in the middle of nowhere

4805
02:59:13,750 --> 02:59:11,600
disappear again

4806
02:59:15,910 --> 02:59:13,760
and they're so damn happy we've seen

4807
02:59:17,670 --> 02:59:15,920
this too you're talking about how deep

4808
02:59:19,670 --> 02:59:17,680
those tracks were in the ground we found

4809
02:59:20,710 --> 02:59:19,680
tracks from a juvenile they're 10 inches

4810
02:59:23,510 --> 02:59:20,720
long

4811
02:59:25,110 --> 02:59:23,520
my foot is 12 inches mike's is 13. we

4812
02:59:26,950 --> 02:59:25,120
were standing next to that track and it

4813
02:59:28,550 --> 02:59:26,960
looked like a cookie cutter it had

4814
02:59:30,389 --> 02:59:28,560
squished the ground down about an inch

4815
02:59:32,870 --> 02:59:30,399
and a half deep i'm standing next to it

4816
02:59:34,630 --> 02:59:32,880
with my 12-inch foot highway 240

4817
02:59:37,429 --> 02:59:34,640
no mark on the ground at all yeah i know

4818
02:59:39,269 --> 02:59:37,439
mike weighs 275 and he's standing next

4819
02:59:41,590 --> 02:59:39,279
to it no mark on the ground at all

4820
02:59:43,990 --> 02:59:41,600
they're tremendously heavy i did the

4821
02:59:45,429 --> 02:59:44,000
same thing and i did nothing but scratch

4822
02:59:48,469 --> 02:59:45,439
my head

4823
02:59:50,550 --> 02:59:48,479
and try to figure it didn't compute duke

4824
02:59:52,550 --> 02:59:50,560
it didn't compute well listen you've got

4825
02:59:54,790 --> 02:59:52,560
a lot of work to do tonight i've got to

4826
02:59:57,910 --> 02:59:54,800
run credits and get out of here i want

4827
03:00:00,309 --> 02:59:57,920
to thank you for an absolute amazing

4828
03:00:02,230 --> 03:00:00,319
conversation after you get your stuff

4829
03:00:04,389 --> 03:00:02,240
done let's circle back in about a month

4830
03:00:06,630 --> 03:00:04,399
or so and pick up where we're leaving

4831
03:00:08,309 --> 03:00:06,640
off tonight duke thank you so much right

4832
03:00:10,550 --> 03:00:08,319
on brother i'll have you some nice video

4833
03:00:11,750 --> 03:00:10,560
from one of my uh from one of my shows

4834
03:00:13,030 --> 03:00:11,760
that i turned out this summer to show

4835
03:00:15,590 --> 03:00:13,040
you some bigfoot by that you already

4836
03:00:17,349 --> 03:00:15,600
seen one of the pictures there's 18 time

4837
03:00:20,150 --> 03:00:17,359
stamps in that video i have to go look

4838
03:00:22,389 --> 03:00:20,160
at thank you so much dude enjoy the rest

4839
03:00:24,950 --> 03:00:22,399
of your night you've got a lot to do

4840
03:00:26,630 --> 03:00:24,960
thank you so much what a great show

4841
03:00:28,790 --> 03:00:26,640
you're very welcome don't hug the wookie

4842
03:00:30,550 --> 03:00:28,800
everybody we'll see you soon don't knock

4843
03:00:33,830 --> 03:00:30,560
the wookie thank you so much duke

4844
03:00:37,230 --> 03:00:33,840
sullivan olive dukes luke's uh all of

4845
03:00:39,030 --> 03:00:37,240
duke's links are over at jimmy

4846
03:00:41,990 --> 03:00:39,040
jimmychurchradio.com what a wonderful

4847
03:00:45,110 --> 03:00:42,000
story head over to world bigfoot radio

4848
03:00:47,670 --> 03:00:45,120
on youtube you'll get the complete glag

4849
03:00:49,349 --> 03:00:47,680
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4850
03:00:51,349 --> 03:00:49,359
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4851
03:00:53,750 --> 03:00:51,359
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4852
03:00:56,150 --> 03:00:53,760
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4853
03:00:58,309 --> 03:00:56,160
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4854
03:01:00,389 --> 03:00:58,319
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4855
03:01:02,070 --> 03:01:00,399
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4856
03:01:03,910 --> 03:01:02,080
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4857
03:01:05,830 --> 03:01:03,920
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4858
03:01:08,230 --> 03:01:05,840
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4859
03:01:10,389 --> 03:01:08,240
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4860
03:01:12,469 --> 03:01:10,399
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4861
03:01:14,309 --> 03:01:12,479
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4862
03:01:15,990 --> 03:01:14,319
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4863
03:01:18,269 --> 03:01:16,000
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4864
03:01:21,510 --> 03:01:18,279
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4865
03:01:23,030 --> 03:01:21,520
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4866
03:01:24,790 --> 03:01:23,040
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4867
03:01:26,950 --> 03:01:24,800
be safe

4868
03:01:32,410 --> 03:01:26,960
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4869
03:01:35,180 --> 03:01:32,580
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4870
03:01:54,280 --> 03:01:35,190
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